Recent Comments on Ideahttp://www.ideastorm.com/services/xml/_idea_details?name=087700000000AHAAA2&community=09a3000000007Tl&ideaTitleLink=%2FideaView2013-05-24T19:57:49.743Zkara_k commented on Dell: Support Open BIOSes for Linuxkara_khttps://www.salesforce.com/00a70000004N5HxAAKChanged status to <span>**REVIEWED**</span>.daniel_j commented on Dell: Support Open BIOSes for Linuxdaniel_jhttps://www.salesforce.com/00a70000004N5HuAAKDell has prioritized expanding Linux availability by bringing more platforms and languages to market. Right now we do not plan to develop or support an Open Bios. But, as Linux adoption grows, we will continue to review the opportunities to do this in the future. Thanks for your idea!
Dell OS Strategic Planningnotequal commented on Dell: Support Open BIOSes for Linuxnotequalhttps://www.salesforce.com/00a70000004N4e1AACI agree with this idea of having the option to use an open BIOS. While I don't usually think about the BIOS while interacting with my computer, knowing that the BIOS is open and accessible to end user review and enhancement would make me feel better knowing that the keys to the (my) computer are not in the hands of a corporation.aikiwolfie commented on Dell: Support Open BIOSes for Linuxaikiwolfiehttps://www.salesforce.com/00a70000004N2B7AAKIn a sense dpic is right. Once you've used Linux for even a short while and you see what can be done with Compiz-Fusion or you see the range and depth of quality software that is available for free then the IBM style PC loaded with a hugely obese Windows installation no longer makes sense.
If modern OSs don't need the legacey DOS features BIOSs support then we should do away with them.dpic commented on Dell: Support Open BIOSes for Linuxdpichttps://www.salesforce.com/00a70000004N2VAAA0That's because you don't use linux. Please understand that a lot of people are switching and that just because you don't need it, doesn't mean that more and more people do.winoffice commented on Dell: Support Open BIOSes for Linuxwinofficehttps://www.salesforce.com/00a70000004N2V0AAKaikiwolfie: "This is another example of how Dell needs to break the mould of PC design and yet another request not just for Linux but for Linux built directly into the machine."
I see no reason why Dell needs to "break the mould" of PC design.winoffice commented on Dell: Support Open BIOSes for Linuxwinofficehttps://www.salesforce.com/00a70000004N2UyAAKBut then phubert, you said "it's time to replace it" and doesn't that mean "eliminate proprietary BIOSes completely and no longer allow any customers to get them"? I think that customers should be given the OPTION to choose between proprietary and open BIOSes, like this:
Select your BIOS
But then instead of "it's time to replace it" it would be more precise to say "it's time to ADD the CHOICE of open BIOSES". But "replace" usually means "eliminate the old and introduce the new". But I do not want the "old" (proprietary) to be eliminated.phubert commented on Dell: Support Open BIOSes for Linuxphuberthttps://www.salesforce.com/00a70000004N2NZAA0but winoffice, didn't I say "for Linux"????? Open BIOS of course means the BIOS would not be _proprietary_ so the SOURCE would be available, with potential for enhancements, options, innovation...winoffice commented on Dell: Support Open BIOSes for Linuxwinofficehttps://www.salesforce.com/00a70000004N2IfAAKWhat are you saying phubert...I like the BIOSes as they are now.phubert commented on Dell: Support Open BIOSes for Linuxphuberthttps://www.salesforce.com/00a70000004N1s7AAC@john_h - no, THANK YOU for THIS response. I'm afraid I -tend- to be far more philosophical than practical, but -philosophy- provides the -foundation- for our actions. So, I really DO appreciate that there is a great deal Dell, or any other company, is not ABLE to share. Your participation in our dialogue, however, is extremely valuable. You must understand that some of the simplest things may turn out to have the greatest effect and truly unexpected results.
I know I probably sound like some 'head in the clouds' crackpot visionary...john_h commented on Dell: Support Open BIOSes for Linuxjohn_hhttps://www.salesforce.com/00a70000004N1ryAAC@phubert: my mistake. I made the assumption that Open BIOS request was for Linux BIOS. I know that we're not currently planning to get involved with the Linux BIOS effort, but I'm not sure what other efforts our BIOS team might be involved in around BIOS standards or open projects for the industry. I'll do some investigations, but I'm not sure how much we'll be able to share on the topic right now.phubert commented on Dell: Support Open BIOSes for Linuxphuberthttps://www.salesforce.com/00a70000004N1juAAC@john_h - if you re-read the suggestion you will see that it is exactly what @dpic refers to. I was not asking Dell to IMPLEMENT Open BIOS for Linux (does such actually exist in usable form?), but rather to become involved with and hence support the efforts TO create an Open BIOS.dpic commented on Dell: Support Open BIOSes for Linuxdpichttps://www.salesforce.com/00a70000004N1jOAASWould Dell consider working with LinuxBIOS or something similar to speed up development and be the first to have it used by default?john_h commented on Dell: Support Open BIOSes for Linuxjohn_hhttps://www.salesforce.com/00a70000004N1iuAACThis is a nice idea, and is something we have spoken about several times here at Dell. However, at this time we don't have any plans to move our systems to Open BIOSes. This is something we will continue to monitor and investigate over time.rotthund commented on Dell: Support Open BIOSes for Linuxrotthundhttps://www.salesforce.com/00a70000004N11RAASThere's EFI, and that's what Apple is already using. Since Dell does it's own BIOS...
Last time I had an OS integrated in a ROM on a desktop was an IBM XT Emerson clone with DOS 3-something. It was convenient not needing to boot from a floppy.phubert commented on Dell: Support Open BIOSes for Linuxphuberthttps://www.salesforce.com/00a70000004N0pyAACIsn't the entire Linux/OSS 'model' also fundamental to this? Progress apace?
<b>How Linux Is Testing The Limits Of Open Source Development </b>
But make no mistake: Torvalds is pushing open source development tactics to new extremes. As the kernel grows in size and complexity, the rapid-fire iterations are straining the capacity of the community of volunteers who test and debug them.
Yet Torvalds can't let off the gas, for two reasons. ****
http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=202404635gunner_sr commented on Dell: Support Open BIOSes for Linuxgunner_srhttps://www.salesforce.com/00a70000004N0pwAACI think Dell is listening to our thoughts when it comes to BIOS accessibility under Linux. Isn't what the libsmbios project is all about. I think the interesting part is how manufacturers firmware/software gets integrated into Linux Distro's that is what is the interesting bit. I think only time and demand will tell this story.petzymathuram commented on Dell: Support Open BIOSes for Linuxpetzymathuramhttps://www.salesforce.com/00a70000004N0bsAACwow well said Paul...;)phubert commented on Dell: Support Open BIOSes for Linuxphuberthttps://www.salesforce.com/00a70000004N0blAACLinux and F/LOSS should ALWAYS be 'works in PROGRESS', because PROGRESS should be just what they are about.
Technology will continue to change around us as should our application OF technology and F/LOSS provides a REAL opportunity for COLLABORATIVE change and progress.
If this world needs anything, it needs more unity between, not governments or religions, but INDIVIDUALS... and the Internet and F/LOSS provide excellent tools to facilitate this!petzymathuram commented on Dell: Support Open BIOSes for Linuxpetzymathuramhttps://www.salesforce.com/00a70000004N0Z6AAK@ Paul....congrats...;)