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More RAM! By mwmtjm,  Jan 30, 2007

Do away with 512MB of memory as a base option to buy consumer desktops and notebooks. With Vista running best on 1GB at a minimum, don't make customers have a basic experience with the new OS because Dell wants to be able to advertise at a lower price point. The success of Vista -- and subsequently for Dell -- will be largely in word of mouth. Take a long-term view and build the momentum one great customer experience at a time right now!


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Please see chris_m's comment
mwmtjm34140.0
  Tue Jan 30 22:39:36 GMT 2007
Comments: 119
Categories: Desktops and Laptops  
Status:Partially Implemented


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By daradib  May 24, 2007
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We don't need more RAM yet (as a base option), it's very unnecessary unless you want Aero on Windows Vista (but Vista Basic is still a base option). And many people use Linux, XP, and Vista Basic which do not have these unnecessary requirements (although Vista has too high system requirements due to DRM). Just because Vista Premium has high requirements shouldn't make 1 GB the base option. Reducing the price of RAM, however, would be nice. If you need 1 GB, choose it, don't force it upon everyone who doesn't want it or need it.

By jtome  May 25, 2007
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I'm running WIndows XP Pro with 2GB of RAM and have run out of memory. You can currently buy Mac computers that come with more RAM than the same configuration on a PC.

By ubuntu_guy386  Jun 6, 2007
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Do away with 512MB; RAM is so cheap these days! 512MB just begs for more obsolete computers.

By johnnilsson  Jun 9, 2007
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Ubuntu will not run on 256 MB, XUbuntu might be able to do with that. 512MB on Ubuntu is workable but painfull. 1 GB is the minimum for a smooth operation of Ubuntu.

By jmxz  Jun 10, 2007
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johnnilsson: I have Ubuntu running just fine on 128MB on a Pentium II. Yeah, I don't run gnome or kde or beryl; but ubuntu itself runs just fine.

By johnnilsson  Jun 11, 2007
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By Ubuntu I mean ubuntu-desktop. That's why I mentioned XUbuntu as a comparison. I'm sure you could run "Ubuntu" on 8MB of ram if you pick the right packages.

By no2cl  Jun 12, 2007
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We're using hundred's Optiplex with 512 Mb & XP for business use (office) since year's and that's quite enough for office XP...
That's what we want: 5 years waranty, good price, good performance.
What's interesting for me: silence, small size and the warranty to have a pc running 5 years without any trouble, with latest's technology.

Furthermore, in five years, I'll replace all that stuff with brandnew Dell's (or HP, or...?) that 'll have enough memory to run the next generation (Vista,...,Linux, OS X....?) of O.S.

Dell often offer 2 times the amount of memory for the same price during specific time of year...

If they choose to pre-load Vista, they should advice 1 Gb of memory as a standard but let the customer decide.
With Linux or XP, 512Mb is quite enough for a normal use.
If the customer need assistance (what does i need for doing this or that?), it's always possible to call Dell for assistance...or ask a friend!

That's the trouble: people need good advices... the rest is a personnal "point of vue"...depending the way you're using your computer (vid+¬o's, gaming,...)


By orbhot  Jul 18, 2007
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Making people buy more RAM because of Microsoft bloatware does not make sense.

By dell_admin10  Jul 23, 2007
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Changed status to **UNDER REVIEW**.

By reg  Jul 25, 2007
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GREAT! Even the cheapest Compaq & Gateway Notebook computers for $499 come with a Minimum of 1 GB of RAM, and Gateway's comes with a 160 GB Hard Drive - responding to consumers need for more media storage space for their photos, iTunes, and video.

By evilhom3r  May 2, 2008
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Dell RAM costs to much. It would be alot cheaper to just buy it on your own.

By wallyhorse  May 4, 2008
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Actually, the cost of RAM on Dell has come down a lot this year, at least in the US if you have not noticed it (to $50 for 1GB).

By wallyhorse  Jun 12, 2008
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As noted in another thread for here in the US: Dell may need to look at lowering the RAM upgrade price to $10-20 per gig, as I Buy Power now has some laptops where that upgrade is only $40 to go from 2GB to 4GB.

By badblood  Sep 17, 2008
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this idea was posted in January 2007 and given the status tag 'under review' in August 2007..... it can't possibly be still under review. But then maybe it's no longer on the 'radar screen'.......

By jmxz  Sep 17, 2008
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I think in this rare case it's honest. Dell no doubt constantly reviews how much memory costs; and as soon as a 1GB memory card is almost as cheap as a 1/2 GB card they'll implement this idea.

By chris_m  Jan 28, 2009
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Since Windows XP is being replaced by Windows Vista, the option for 512MB of ram is going away.

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By jmxz  Jan 29, 2009
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@chris_m:  "Since Windows XP is being replaced by Windows Vista, the option for 512MB of ram is going away."

That's too bad - in many ways.

If Dell's been listening to *ANYTHING* on IdeaStorm, they'd realize that not all Dell customers run Vista even if that is what you're paid to pre-install.

Some want XP to stay longer (and Dell is big enough to negotiate that with their software vendor if they wanted).  Some run non-windows OS's on Dells.   Some will want to run Window 7 which is allegedly lighter-weight than Vista.



By zerothis  Feb 6, 2009
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512MB is more than enough for Linux. And even XP can get by on that much. Instead forcing more expensive RAM on the customer, how about saving them $100 or more by eliminated Vista.
Oh wait, that's been halfheartedly implemented already.

Actually, I wouldn't want to impede on customer choice. So how about when customers select a low amount of RAM and Vista, a huge bold warning is AJAXed onto the screen.


By sbellerby12  Aug 24, 2009
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Greying out that option if you select a Windows OS is fine, however Linux still happily runs on lower amounts of RAM. It's a great way to save money not paying for RAM you don't really need it for something. I'm tired of people giving positive reviews for more RAM, negative reviews for less, without even understanding anything beyond a simple idea explained to them very poorly. They seem to think there's a direct relation between the RAM and the computer's performance, without care for Processor, Bus Speed, GPU, Graphics-dedicated RAM, etc.

Honestly, I think before worrying about removing the lower RAM options, they need to add more to some of their higher-end systems. There are some for which the lowest option is 4GB. This is fine if everything you want to do has a 64-bit version, but if so much as a single important program you need is only in 32-bit right now 4GB of RAM is potentially fatal, or wasteful as you'll not be noticing all of it on your 32-bit system unless you know how to configure youre PAE kernel to identify it correctly for you or something.


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