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Bring back the 16:10 screen format in high end Business laptops
September 20, 2011
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The 16:10 screen format is much better suited to business applications than a 16:9 screen. Replacing the option of a 1920x1200 screen with a 1920x 1080 screen is simply a downgrade. Go back to the 16:10 ratios for business laptops.
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Jun 5, 2012 Comment Link
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Posted By: AMurderOfCrows
Your customers who actually do work want 16:10, dell. bring it back. Dell sells WAY too many systems to not be a leader and an innovator in the industry. So what if the screen manufacturers went the other direction? If you build it and it sells well, the industry will follow you.And so will my $$$$.
Mar 23, 2012 Comment Link
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Posted By: gajhsos
Well, with all due respect, I think that veer01_42 (quote: "how much more could you do on 20 extra pixels" end-quote) is missing the point or ignoring how to calculate the pixel density (or PPI = Pixels-Per-Inch) differences between 1920x1280 (or simply 1900x1200) and the 1920x1080 (or simply so called HD).The fact is that the Dell Inspiron 8600 (as a sample) in it's 15.4 display already have a greater number of pixels and greater PPI...
AND "20" IS JUST THE DIFFERENCE IN "PPI", NOT IN "PIXELS"...
The retina allready have a highly workeable density (or 264 ppi). It's easy to ask any one that use it if he's ready to go back...
Mar 12, 2012 Comment Link
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Posted By: zanlok
couldn't agree more. this was why my last monitor purchase was a U2412M. Having "HD" for movies might be convenient, but having the real estate for business/work tasks is essential. I personally wish there was still offerings in the QXGA aspect ratio, but the WUXGA and WQXGA options are mostly acceptable.Mar 12, 2012 Comment Link
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Posted By: veer01_42
Wanting an aspect ratio that only provides a few more pixes up and down is not a big improvement for workflow. I mean how much more could you do on 20 extra pixels? Turn up you scrolling speed and it will negate those extra pixels.I prefer the 16x9 aspect ratio for the benefits it brings to the actual laptop case itself, bigger keyboards, or room for bigger speakers like on the XPS 15. The 16x9 FORM FACTOR has benefits that are notable, but regarding the screen, all you get is more vertical real estate.
I think its about time we see resolutions above 1920x1080 or 1200. We need to finally jump to 4K displays. Even apple is rumored to be moving to insanely high resolution displays. This would negate any arguments for 16x10 being better than 16x9 due to the sheer increase in useable work area.
For once Dell, wouldn't you like to beat apple to the punch and innovate before they can?
You already make a laptop with the best speakers (XPS15) and best touchpad (XPS15) i have ever used on a laptop, why not add, best screen to that list as well? Why not add best quality monitors of any OEM to Dell's credentials?
In a previous post i mentioned about upsizing the minimum resolutions for laptops 13-17" should be 1600x900. Sub 13" laptops are fine at 1366x768.
For 15" and greater, having a reolution option beyond 1920x1080 would fit into this new SKUing a lot better.
Feb 26, 2012 Comment Link
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Posted By: katalin_2003
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Posted By: Zeratul
With 1920x1200 in PremierePro we would have enough space for FHD editing in Full Screen an we could put the tool bar on the bottom.Feb 20, 2012 Comment Link
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Posted By: tonyman262
At what point will the PC manufacturers realize they are eliminating or maybe I should say greatly reducing the need for high end laptops.While number crunching is very important even on a portable device; the result is most often presented on the display.
Whether the result of your work is spreedsheets, programming, video editing, gaming, photography editing or photography viewing, CAD, modeling, reading, PowerPoint presentations Visio drawings, network management apps, data & forms entry or whatever; the only application that the current crop of 16:9 displays have been optimized for is watchings movies.
The thing is I can get a very low end tablet to watch movies. I have several nice monitors and TVs to watch movies. Any PC capable of the any of the above applications can be used to watch movies.
I have owned several Dell laptops XPS, Alienware, and now I using a Precision M6500. I would really like to purchase a laptop that offers an upgrade from the Precision M6500, to a laptop with a newer processor, newer graphics, and faster I/O (USB 3.0 & SATA 3 6GB). This would appear to be the Precision M6600. I could even put up with the Alienware case if I could get the performance.
The deal breaker is the 16:9 display. While I prefer Dell, I have looked at other vendors to get the machine I wanted.
For me, and I stress, for me, there is no longer a need to purchase a high end laptop. The absolute minimum laptop for me is one that can do PowerPoint preferably with a VGA connector but I have found out the mini-displayport to VGA adapters work so even a VGA port is no longer required.
I'm glad other industries don't limit themselves to the lowest common denominator.
I have already floated the idea of Dell offering updated motherboards for the Precision M6500 (same could be done for XPS and Alienware laptops with 1920x1200 displays).
When my current M6500 finally can no longer be repaired or can no longer do what I need then I'll get a laptop or more likely a tablet that can do PowerPoint and output to a projector. There is no need to purchase a more capable machine if it won't show me what I'm doing in the format that I'm willing to pay for.
Like I said at the beginning, the need for high end laptops have been greatly reduced.
Feb 18, 2012 Comment Link
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Posted By: gldickens3
My small business owns the following 5 Dell Precision laptops:
- Two (2) M90s greater than 5 years old.
- One (1) M6300 4 years old.
- One (1) M6400 3 years old.
- One (1) M6500 1 year old.
None of the employees are willing to give up their 1920X1200 displays so they would prefer not to upgrade to the newer faster processors. This decision by Dell to go with the 1920X1080 displays is definitely discouraging sales since many people consider the display size to be more important than the newer faster processors.
Also, as an aside, two of these Dell precision laptops are running Linux (one-Ubuntu and one OpenSUSE).
Feb 10, 2012 Comment Link
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Posted By: winoffice
The one problem with this idea is that it doesn't go far enough. There really shouldn't be 16:9 at all...16:10 screens should be used on all laptops (and desktop monitors, too).Well, not really...there's a second problem. I think Dell has scrapped 16:10 entirely, and I'm afraid that they have no intention of going back.
Jan 30, 2012 Comment Link
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Posted By: livin-large
I have a collection of Pentium 4 laptops that I accumulated for one reason alone, they have high resolution screens. If I need to work portably, I need to see what I am working on, not spend my time scrolling.Examples:
Dell Latitude C840 - 1600x1200 (nice) I have collected 6 working, 4 for parts.
Gateway M680 - 1920x1200 (big, 17", full keyboard, not that portable)
HP 8510w (core2 Duo, 15", 1920x1200 this is portable, great resolution)
If I can get high resolution screens, I will buy them. It is frustrating to not be able to get them for any price.
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