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Stop Offering XP
June 14, 2007
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Now that I've been using Vista for a while I am happy and have gotten over my initial fears. XP isn't as good, lets face it. The only real reason to keep it is fear of change.
THIS IS NOT A JOKE.
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Posted By: shiningarcanine
Windows XP was the last well-made OS to be sold by Microsoft. Since then, things have went downhill. Ceasing sale of Windows XP would be a bad idea.Jul 6, 2008 Comment Link
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Posted By: aikiwolfie
In terms of losing their PC business. yes they lost. If they had stood up to Microsoft and managed to keep their PC sales, perhaps using a different OS IBM would probably be in an even better position than they are right now in the PC market. They'd certainly be in a better position to push Lotus Symphony. Microsoft basically kicked IBM out of their own market! Microsoft shouldn't be able to do that.Jul 6, 2008 Comment Link
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Posted By: jmxz
@aikiwolfie: "Hang on a minute. IBM were the effective losers there. " Are you kidding? Ditching the segment where IBM had all the costs and Microsoft and Intel got all the profit was one of the best things that ever happened to them since they fell for MSDOS when they first started making desktop computers.Jul 6, 2008 Comment Link
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Posted By: aikiwolfie
No the problem is Microsoft. Many people have no choice but to deal with Microsoft because they don't know any better and PC manufacturers refuse to give them a choice. As for Vista. No operating system should be that much of a resource hog. On a modern Linux system we have more fancy effects than you can imagine and it'll still run smoothly on a less powerful system than Vista does. So what have Microsoft done about the reaction to Vistas bloat? They've abandoned MinWin for Windows 7 and decided to stick with the bloated Vista kernel. MinWin was a project to develop a slimmed down resource efficient Windows kernel. But changing the OS so dramatically opens up the market for the competition. If new Windows isn't compatible with old Windows then you've basically lost the number one most compelling reason for customers to stick with Windows. This is what Microsoft has learned from Vista. It left them vulnerable and forced them to compete. Which saw consumer Linux become a reality on low end desktops and netbooks. It's not just consumers however that have issues with Vista. Software developers also have taken issue with Vista to the point where hardly any have embraced the OS. They developing software targeted at Vista the way they did with XP. Service pack 1 was supposed to have addressed a lot of the issues. Having used it, I can't say I'm convinced. But Windows isn't going to vanish over night and neither is Microsoft.Jul 6, 2008 Comment Link
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Posted By: winoffice
badblood: "The only real reason to keep it is fear of change." That is kind of like how some of the presidential candidates are babbling here in the US. (It should be obvious as to who exactly however.) One of them in particular keeps babbling endlessly about it, but the change that HE offers is negative rather than positive, so I am NOT voting for him. My apologies if anyone disagrees with me in the previous paragraph, but my point here is: "Change" is not always positive. It is not negative in Vista, but that is my opinion, and many people will likely disagree with me here.Jul 6, 2008 Comment Link
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Posted By: aikiwolfie
Hang on a minute. IBM were the effective losers there. IBM ended up selling it's desktop and laptop PC business, discontinued OS/2 Warp, which meant all the banks had to switch to embedded Windows in their ATMs. At the end of it all Microsoft got a tighter grip on the banks and never even lost any PC license sales because IBM didn't discontinue it's PC business. It sold it on. Which means all those PCs were still sold anyway with Microsoft Windows pre-installed. And Microsoft are a stronger company today. The only way Dell will get away with standing up to Microsoft is if other big names do it too. For example Dell and HP with possibly Acer and Asus. Acer have already announced plans to go Linux. Asus are openly selling Linux systems and even designing systems around Linux. So what's holding back Dell and HP? Could it be the share holders? Share holders don't like to lose money. Any PC manufacturer that abandons Microsoft will go through a lot of pain in lost revenue before things get better. Acer have already said they are expecting as much. Dell won't do it. They wouldn't dare. Dell are followers not leaders.Jul 5, 2008 Comment Link
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Posted By: jmxz
@aikiwolfie: I re-iterate that Dell is a big company who has proved that it has at least some ability (though rarely willingness) to negotiate with Microsoft. For Windows 7 to succeed, Microsoft needs Dell at least as much as Dell needs Microsoft (as IBM proved when they effectively turned their backs on Microsoft after Microsoft pushed IBM too far); and with that power Dell can convince Microsoft to help satisfy Dell customers a little longer.Jul 5, 2008 Comment Link
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Posted By: aikiwolfie
It's not like Dell will have an option. XP has been left for dead by MS. People will have to move on sooner or later. The question is which OS will they adopt? Will Dells loyalty to MS pay off or will Dell customers abandon them in droves for Apple or some easily available Linux option?Jul 5, 2008 Comment Link
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Posted By: jmxz
Let me guess - this Idea is voted negative so I expect Dell to implement it soon.Jul 5, 2008 Comment Link
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Posted By: nivek
Finally! An Idea Poster who knows what he is talking about!!!!!!!!!!!!! KEEP VISTA. It ROCKS the socks of XP!!!1 2 3 4 5 ... 10 Next