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I would like to request Dell to make Dell Microsoft Operating System .iso files available to download. These .iso files should include, the latest service packs, the latest version on Internet Explorer for that OS and nothing else. For example:
• Window XP Professional 32 bit with SP3 & IE8
• Windows Vista Business Edition 32 bit with SP2 & IE9
• Windows 7 Professional Edition 64 bit with SP1 & IE9
Of course make all versions of Windows available to download from say 2000 Professional including Vista/7 starter. This has become more critical because Dell are (by default) no longer shipping OS DVDs when you purchase a new Dell system. In fact the lower end systems such as the Inspiron do not even have the option to purchase reinstallation media with the system. While there is a link to request media in the U.S. It is less convienient to get the media elsewhere. I think even alot of U.S. users would prefer being able to download the .iso file direct from Dell.
I know there is the Dell Datasafe program but its method will give you all the preinstalled software etc. which the end user may or may not want. I know that many end users will not create the media and only will only look for it when it is too late. e.g. at hard drive failure. In addition I and some other users have experienced some reduced performance after installing the latest Service Packs/Internet Explorer. This may be due to some conflicts with ATI/Realtek drivers with the Service Pack. Restoring to factory settings cannot fix this problem as the Service Pack is again installed after the drivers. Installing Windows and then the Service Pack prevents such a problem. A Dell windows installation DVD with the Service Packs slipstreamed would be the best solution to prevent this problem.
Digital River, Microsofts online store partner have .iso files available for both Windows Vista and Windows 7 which can be found here. These can be used in conjunction with a Dell OEM product key, however it does not give the Dell logo in system and phone activation is required.Since the first stage of the form makes the user input their service tag, links could be provided to Dell parts and upgrades. Dell of course may make additional revenue here by recommending the user to purchase a larger hard drive from Dell or additional memory from Dell and say it is Dell recommended to do these upgrades before installing Windows.
Note they could also have a link to upgrade to a newer version of Windows such as Windows 7 Ultimate or an upgrade from XP/Vista to 7. This will suit Microsoft aswell as it will provide them with more revenue. The user could then purchase the software upgrade and instead download that .iso file. Could do a similar thing with Microsoft Office OEM Upgrade discount or Full OEM version if not originally purchased with the system.
I was going to say that Dell could charge a reasonable fee of $5 for the service of downloading the .iso files although I would rather that they wouldn't. However I think if it has the suggested OEM hardware and software upgrades, then it is probably a better means of revenue for them.
Just to note I posted a similar idea here before but that was based on XP and not as well thought out.
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May 6, 2012
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Jan 15, 2012
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Hi WinOffice thanks for mentioning your 2 gripes:natakuc4 Comment Link
(1) I think Dell might use this download program in order to not include reinstallation media with the computer itself. Instead of making people download the OS, Dell should include a CD/DVD in the box. (I don't object to this ISO idea IF Dell doesn't toy around with actual hard-copy media.)
I would prefer both options to be available also especially at the current moment in time. However in time, .isos are going to need to take precedence over physical discs in particular for systems such as the Inspiron Duo which has no CD/DVD drive. Of course a USB could be supplied with such systems.
(2) These ISO files, if this idea is implemented, should NOT include any new version of Internet Explorer. Dell should have a policy of not adding any extra (non-OS/non-driver) software, not even IE unless it's the version bundled with the OS.
Your gripe about Internet Explorer is quite interesting, I don't particularly want anything bundled either but I consider Internet Explorer and Windows Media Player as an integral part of Windows and hence I would personally include it up with an up to date version. However your argument is of course equally as valid.
Current .isos downloads for Windows 7 are further split into different images, perhaps Dell should also adopt the same nomenclature of the different versions available N, E. K etc. and explain the difference when the user is downloading them.
Microsoft had to introduce the E and N editions to the European market and the K and KN editions to the Korean market due to pressure from the respective governments. The N editions don't contain any media player software; the E editions don't contain the internet explorer; the K editions contain additional selection screens to download alternative media player and messenger software, the KN editions don't contain any media player or messenger software, or any links to alternatives. (from here: http://www.heidoc.net/joomla/technology-science/microsoft/14-windows-7-direct-download-links )
Perhaps Dell should also include one with Microsoft Office 2010 Starter preinstalled should the end-user want that, although I don't want Office 2010 starter as the first thing I do after installing Windows is install the full version of Office 2010.
The more options the better for the end user providing the options are well explained. However if multiple options are made available, an option of Windows on its own with the latest Service Pack must be present.
Jul 16, 2012 Comment Link
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Posted By: sod7
Will Dell make them availabe for download?Apr 5, 2012 Comment Link
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Posted By: robgtx
For older versions of Windows. specifically XP and 7, Microsoft will never let this happen, unfortunatly Dell's role here is that of the reseller, Microsoft makes the rules. Microsoft wants everyone to upgrade to Windows 7 and is never going to make it easy for you to stay on the same old OS.That said, for the purchase of a new PC, it would sure make sense to be able to download what you already purchased. After all it's the license that matters, not the physical media.
Mar 21, 2012 Comment Link
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Posted By: dell.com
Reading this with a LOT of interest (and I'll keep following).Why? Read complete story here: http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/software-os/f/3524/t/19441885.aspx
In short: how to get pre-activated ISO with SP2 for, say, Vista.
Partial copy-paste, for I hope one of the experts in this thread may know a reasonable solution for me (and others!)...
"" I'm URGENTLY wondering... Can I slipstream SP2 into a corporate dell vista business sp1 dvd? But in such a way, it does not destroy the hardware pre-activation that comes so nicely with Dell Business installation DVD's. I have an official SP1 dvd lying around and I used that once to create a master image to roll out to all my dell client computers.
Recently, something went wrong with my Master Image, and I had to do a repair upgrade of Vista. Because I did not have the original dvd lying around, I downloaded an original ISO image for Vista Business. All went well... Except: now my Master Images needs activation when I clone it to a new PC : (
Of course, removing SP2 is impossible because I make mean & lean images :(
Not only typing the serial is really inconvenient, more importantly not all Dell hardware comes with a Vista COA (but XP). ""
Mar 21, 2012 Comment Link
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"All that effort in making the graphic example, and you couldn't spell 'your'."theflash1932
Nitpick. Wow.
"I think it's a poor idea. Lots of people have small bandwidth allowances on their broadband - downloading an ISO of their OS would wipe out their monthly allowance twice over in one go!"
MOST people these days do NOT have these types of limitations, and most people who have limitations are rarely limited to less than 20GB/month for the cheapest plans - plenty of room to spare for a 3.5GB download, let alone the larger caps set by the likes of AT&T at 150GB/month. Nobody is going to download these from their smartphones - usually the only providers with limits that low.
"Why not just make sure you order the recovery DVD when you buy the computer?"
Not everyone knows they need one until they need one. Why is it not included in the first place?
Mar 21, 2012 Comment Link
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Posted By: mips33
Love the idea. Make it happen, please.Mar 7, 2012 Comment Link
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Hi Cy_J is there any progress with Microsoft on this idea as of yet?natakuc4
Mar 2, 2012 Comment Link
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AMurderofCrows, I have all my Dell Media and I am careful with it.natakuc4
However having posted alot in the Dell Microsoft OS Forum and from people I know I have seen that physical media can be easily misplaced or scratched for various reasons, kids, dogs, moving house, laziness etc. etc. Having a download link would ultimately solve many of these issues. The .iso downloads available from Digital River are well documented and are retail. Thus it is easier to get Retail Media to install an OEM license at the moment.
You can use these retail .iso to install an OEM of the same version, Home, Professional and Ultimate but you need to activate via phone and do not get the OEM (Dell in this case logos); I have done this on several systems.
In addition some netbooks don't have a CD/DVD drive so you have to install via USB and that can easily be done via an .iso, if you had a DVD you would need to create an .iso from it so it cuts out a step.
Although you can do some workarounds as you say or on the otherhand like I have wrote in my wiki using retail media. This idea however is a suggestion to make things easier for the end users. i.e. have the ability to download the .iso of the OS with the latest Service Packs, create a bootable USB or DVD (with a Dell utility to perhaps slipstream the SATA drivers for your system if required), get the drivers and any Dell software all in the one place and told what order to install things without having to hunt for information. I think it will help advanced users also.
Next the Windows they install is relatively up to date and not in the case of Windows XP for example 11 years unupdated prior to first connection to the internet increasing security. Finally it should unlock in the Dell BIOs as normal so there are limited activation issues.
Essentially this will make a complete safety net (software wise) for one to do a total clean install having lost all their discs and broke their factory partition and/or have a corrupt factory partition without the need to contact Dell. Providing they have their Dell system and an internet connection. If they don't they could do everything at an Internet Cafe for example providing they had a USB stick and their system and possibily a friend to download stuff if their windows does not boot or have a Desktop.
Mar 1, 2012 Comment Link
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Posted By: AMurderOfCrows
This entire topic is essentially moot. Except for the cases of having personally made, slipstreamed, updated media, there is no reason to have Dell maintain ISOs.
First off, as mentioned earlier, Dell should just provide some sort of physical disc for Windows install. period.
Secondly, anyone who does any actual study would realize that *ANY* OEM version of Windows 7, coupled with Dell's OEM Certificate, can be installed and permanently activated on any legitimate Dell system that includes SLIC 2.1 information in the BIOS.
The media/iso really doesn't matter. I'm not sure how you didn't get the Dell logo when you installed via OEM, but if you get OEM media, it does NOT require a phone-in validation.
There is information ALL OVER about this process. Furthermore, i believe it is actually legal by Microsoft's Royalty Retailer/OEM EULA, as Microsoft doesn't charge you for the ISO, they charge you for the License. This is part of the reason why Windows comes with a 30 day grace period now: You can install any ~RETAIL~ version of windows 7 on any compatible machine, free for 30 days, after which you must pay for a license if you want to keep using it.
For Royalty OEMs like Dell, the license was paid for by Dell already. Owners of systems produced by Royalty OEMs do not need to call in to validate and activate windows, because of the SLIC tables in the BIOS combined with the correct OEM certificate and an OEM version of Windows 7. If your machine doesn't have SLIC tables that match the OEM Certificates that are installed, windows won't activate. Period, end of story.
So, find the OEM certificate for your Dell system, find an OEM version of Windows, find the tool that will install the certificate on your OS once windows has been installed. If your system is eligible for that version of Windows, it will activate and the Dell logo will show up.
Feb 28, 2012 Comment Link
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Posted By: wojtek_em
I think it's a great idea, possibility to download clean Dell Windows iso. It would simplify reinstallation process. I hope Dell would make it ;)Feb 26, 2012 Comment Link
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Posted By: sod7
Please make these iso files available for use with DELL SERVICE TAGS.1 2 3 4 Next