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Display in laptops

Thu Apr 24 20:06:02 GMT 2014 - 8:06 PM

Thank you both of you. I accept the views of Stigtrix. The battery technology and screen properties have advanced since Asus attempt. Only the cost could be a constraint.

The second screen could be optionally switched on when needed and/or can be connected thro' USB or HDMI sockets when needed to save power. Additional DC cable can be supplied from adapter dirctly to the second screen by-passing the battery and can be used when needed.

Some of my techie friends suggest that small changes in hardware/software can adopt wifi mouse and keyboard when needed.

I was aiming at future as even kids are now permitted to bring laptops to school and have small group interactions.
Mass production will cut the cost here.

Display in laptops

Thu Apr 24 19:12:58 GMT 2014 - 7:12 PM

Thank you for posting the idea. Stigtrix makes some good points about possible issues. What kind of additional cost were you thinking of for the additional screen vc.karun?

Improve the management system

Thu Apr 24 16:35:50 GMT 2014 - 4:35 PM

Thank you for your quick reply, yes there is a market for this product we can baptize DELLBISINESS.
The product will help trader operating in the informal sector master
their business. We can estimate this market for 100 millions. But with the use by families this figure can be multiplied by 20.
I propose the design:
1 Basic with only the management and to facilitate its utilization image software. With or without printer

 
2 The basic form plus printer and management stocks
3. Printer with management stock and bar code reader (the printer must be able to print bar codes and various situations stocks, suppliers, customers, cash..).
Thank you for your attention

Display in laptops

Thu Apr 24 15:16:06 GMT 2014 - 3:16 PM

The Asus Taichi was a flop, so it would not be wise by Dell to try the same thing. Two screens in a laptop leads to issues like: performance hit (more power needed), battery life (one high resolution screen is craving enough) and above all -which will scare the masses away: cost. It is a good idea, but not as practical as it may sound.

We need a real Business Laptop with a real 16:10 screen

Thu Apr 24 14:59:13 GMT 2014 - 2:59 PM

Thank you for the additional context Ralphpeters. I read the idea as you being passionate about your cause. I was worried a bit by your obsession with Farmville but did not want to kid you about it in my first response. :)

Jokes aside, I understand where you are coming from since when IdeaStorm launched I was a customer posting ideas here myself. The Latitude line has always been one of my favorites to post about. Since joining Dell I have learned that there is more to implementing an idea than I had previously imagined, especially in laptops due to the R&D that goes into a new model.

I look forward to seeing how the community reacts to your idea and hope to see more ideas from you in the future.  

Using our mechanical energy in day to day life

Thu Apr 24 06:48:34 GMT 2014 - 6:48 AM

No I haven't worked out on the cost , but recently I read an article about an rickshaw which uses the same method of transforming the mechanical energy of pedaling to the batteries inbuilted in the same . The cost of such mechanism is almost 40% lesser than the actual rickshaws. 

We need a real Business Laptop with a real 16:10 screen

Wed Apr 23 23:18:37 GMT 2014 - Yesterday

Cy_J, Thanks so much for responding so quickly. I really appreciate this forum. And please forgive me if I was harsh. I guess we get emotional thinking there are no more laptop options on the market!  MANY users share my concern. You can google "16:10" and see the countless desperate people on message boards complaining about this.

Yes, I would HAPPILY pay a premium to get a 16:10 screen. Maybe I'm jaded ....but I would even spend $1000 more to get a proper screen. Really! When you use a laptop constantly you'd do anything to have it feel right.

Obviously Dell wouldn't price it that way but THAT"S HOW MUCH 16:9 BOTHERS PEOPLE. I can't imagine the manufacturing cost would be THAT much higher.  ($10-$20 max if you're buying in bulk from Foxconn, etc) .. but, yes, people who really cared about this (there are thousands if not millions) wouldn't blink if it was an extra $100-$150. We're talking about power business users, not the people looking for bargains.

Also, as you have probably noticed, the 15.6 widescreen is ridiculously wide and makes a huge heavy laptop. We would much prefer a real keyboard with REAL arrows than have the number pad.  We use the arrow/function keys 100X more than we type actual numbers! I choked when I started seeing huge clumsy 15.6"  "wide" models with a number pad crammed into the side! Obviously this "pad" can be an option. But I think a lot of professionals who are traveling would rather see 15.4" 16:10 models without the number pad.. and less bulk- but with more vertical height!  Actually, it makes more sense to buy a 14" model with 16:10 and you practically get the same screen height! See below:

The 14.1" 16:10 model gets 7.47 inches of vertical height
The 15.6" 16:9 screen gets 7.64 inches of vertical height. (Only .17 inches more)


So you see it makes more sense to save the 2 pounds of bulk and make a 14.1" 16:10 laptop! Same vertical height. Just less wasted bulk on the sides that barely gets used. (Think of a document, a PDF, a webpage). It's all vertical.

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So, Imagine if the Dell Latitude was the ONLY and LAST computer left on the market that had:

-16:10 screen (with decent resolutions, at least 1440x900)
-Real traditional keyboard (like the 6500 or 6510, both are great)
-was as thin and light as modern "ultrabooks" (like the Ideapad Yoga)
-was docakble.
-14.1" (It's a good size, not too big, not too small, and with 16:10, you get good height as mentioned)

Wow, I would pay $6,000 in a heartbeat to have this. I would.

-RP



Matte Screen on m3800 (and XPS15?)

Wed Apr 23 20:31:55 GMT 2014 - Yesterday

@Andusvan, the single audio jack is switchable, and it can even do both line-out and mic at the same time (e.g. if you connect a headset that uses a single connector).  When you connect anything to that jack, a dialog pops up asking you what you connected so the jack can be configured correctly and the internal speakers and/or mic disabled as appropriate.  Using a PCIe SSD would require a second M.2 slot since the current one is used for the WiFi card.  And I don't see 10-gigabit Ethernet being remotely feasible or necessary.  Most servers don't even come with 10G standard yet, and in any case 10G is typically implemented over fiber.  10G over copper is extremely rare even by 10G standards, and even places that have it wouldn't deploy it to locations used by workstations since the per-port cost of 10G is still far too high for that.  Do you actually work somewhere that provides 10G over copper on runs intended for workstations?

@Blackb1rd, I don't see a more powerful CPU and GPU as being realistic in a system in this size and weight class, at least not until the next-gen parts are available that deliver more performance while consuming less power -- but those components would likely be incorporated into the M3800's successor.  In the meantime, if you need more power, the M4800 would likely be a better fit for you.  For a similar reason I don't see these types of specs being feasible to implement into a 13" or 14" model, at least with the current technology and while maintaining a weight and thickness that buyers of 13-14" models would expect.  Customizing individual components in the system is unfortunately something that's been disappearing from Dell overall recently, except for those businesses with Premier accounts, so I don't see that coming back.  And using an MQ processor would require designing a completely different motherboard, so I doubt that would happen either -- plus the MQ doesn't have VT for Directed I/O like the HQ does.

We need a real Business Laptop with a real 16:10 screen

Wed Apr 23 17:59:58 GMT 2014 - Yesterday

Thank you for sharing the feedback Ralphpeters. As you mention, 16:10 screens have become uncommon in notebooks. I too have read articles about how 16:9 screens cost screen manufactures less to produce. That being said, what do you feel would be an acceptable price difference between the two screen ratios if Dell were to make the change to 16:10?  

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