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Was tun mit fremdsprachigen Kommentaren?

40 points posted to by mistern 07/28/07

Regelmäßig tauchen fremdsprachige Kommentare auf, die meist nur eine Minderheit der Nutzer von IdeaStorm versteht. Oft erbarmt sich ein freundlicher Nutzer und übersetzt die Idee in die vorherrschende Sprache, aber kann man sich darauf verlassen?

Ich bitte Dell und speziell die IdeaStorm-Leute darum, hierzu eine Richtlinie zu entwickeln.

Danke.

(Ich gebe zu, das hier habe ich auch geschrieben um ein Gegengewicht zu den Kommentaren in den vorherrschenden Fremdsprachen z.B. aus dem Reich der Mitte oder aus Lateinamerika zu setzen, da ich die vorherrschende Sprache der Plattform eigentlich ausreichend beherrsche.

Ist übrigens ziemlich anstrengend, zu vermeiden, die tatsächlichen Namen der Sprachen zu schreiben, da die Idee dann ja ohne Übersetzung verstehbar sein könnte...)

jervis961
07/28/07		 Jag översätter men vanligt inte känselförnimmelsenågot liknande det ikväll, så jag demoted.
mistern
07/28/07		 I don't understand but I like the umlauts and circles. :-)
jervis961
07/28/07		 I didn't feel like translating tonight so I demoted.

After I realized it was you I went back and translated and wish I voted differently.
mistern
07/28/07		 Heh never mind.
mistern
07/28/07		 Translation:

Constantly, there appear foreign-language [non-English] comments, which only a minority of IdeaStorm users can understand. Often, some nice users translates the ideas, but can we rely on that?

I ask Dell and specially the IdeaStorm people to develop a guideline for this.

Thank you.

(I must admit, one reason for me to write this was to create a counterbalance against all those dominating foreign languages for example from the Empire of the Middle [China] or Latin America [Spanish especially], because in actual fact I understand the dominating language [English] reasonably well.

By the way quite difficult to avoid writing the real names of the languages because then, somebody could understand the idea without translating...)
trocupei
07/29/07		 That "god" user that promoted this idea, demoted all (almost) ideas about improving Linux offer. That demoting thing is not necessary. It should be remove
petzymathuram
07/29/07		 Hi mistern,

What does fremdsprachigen mean? I couldnt find that meaning......;)
mistern
07/29/07		 fremdsprachigen = foreign-language

Above you can see my own translation.
badblood
07/29/07		 Funny you should say 'fremdsprachigen' when you seem to mean 'not English'. There are no 'foreign' languages on the internet.
mistern
07/29/07		 @badblood: I didn't want to write "englisch" and "spanisch" because you would have understood that without translator tool.
petzymathuram
07/29/07		 Hi Mistern,

Sorry I dint notice that. I tried finding the meaning on the net, but failed....;) Now I know b coz of you.....;)
petzymathuram
07/29/07		 Hi BadBlood........
badblood
07/29/07		 Hi petzy. I hope that dell_staffer didn't annoy you too much?
jorge
07/30/07		 Somehow I think god is equally canceled out on this one.
petzymathuram
07/30/07		 ;)
premcv
07/30/07		 Maybe dell should start working on this idea ... http://www.ideastorm.com/article/show/72251/Internationalisation_of_Ideastorm
winoffice
Jan 26		 mistern: what??
jdelidc
Jan 26		 i've also noticed that a lot of the good ideas that come from non-english end up demoted probably solo because they ain't english. when one of us multilingual people get it translated, jackie should go back and add the translation to the title so it ain't demoted basically for no reason
jackie_c
Jan 28		 If I come across one that needs to be translated, I will try to do so, no guarantees that it will always be totally accurate, but I will do my best :) If I do not know the specific language, may be a challenge. I can ask the person that posted the Idea; however, some never read or reply to email I send, but I will try it :)
jdelidc
Jan 28		 thanks. lots of good ideas have been demoted just because of language. perfect example: this one
badblood
Jan 29		 mistern translated it in the comments already.
jdelidc
Jan 29		 i know but it would help to have it copied into the title
badblood
Jan 29		 that would have defeated the purpose of writing it in German.
jorge
Jan 30		 Hear Hear! Don't edit peoples words! Let them do it if they want.
jackie_c
Jan 30		 I would not "edit" words, merely translate their point :)
jorge
Jan 31		 Thats editing peoples word... somehow the fine print on the site has something pertaining to this.
zanlok
Jan 31		 @jackie_c: Somehow that isn't really good enough. We'd like to hear from non-English people as well, not just totally edit their posts and say resistance to English is futile. How about a translation feature? At least a quick link to babelfish or something.
jorge
Jan 31		 zanlok, estas bien en tu motivos. Vale.
zanlok
Jan 31		 ¿Y tú? Yo puedo hablar español. Pero, no pienso que tú eres latino como otros de mis amigos.
jorge
Jan 31		 porque no? ingles es mi segunda lengua, perro no creo que los jefe's aqui me entiendem muy bien.
zanlok
Jan 31		 perro? entiendem? why am I doubtful?

Mi perro no entiendem la lengua que usted estaba hablando.. haha.
jorge
Feb 1		 No tengo el "spell checker" en Espanol, y como un humano escribo con errores, no soy perfecto, lo siento :(
zanlok
Feb 1		 esta bien, eta bien.. perdoname, pero yo solo quiero estar un poco tonto unas veces (todas?).. claramente, yo tambien hago errores a tiempos.. mi observacion sobre el perro solo fue un chiste :)
jackie_c
Feb 5		 @jorge: Not sure why you would think the "jefe's" do not understand? Did you forget we are in TX? I grew up 1 hour from the border of Mexico, just an FYI....we understand more than you think ;)
jorge
Feb 5		 @jackie_c: si es verdad entonces porque sigues con borrando los commentos en otras idoiomas? Me gusta que entienden asi no hay necesidad escribir en ingles. Vale.
badblood
Feb 5		 look stop chatting! This is unbearable! How can we hope to uphold standards when even the moderators don't comply!
 
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