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Dell offer a No-OS option in {insert your country here} for all possible computer systems you offer.

950 points posted to Linux, Operating Systems by jorge 07/11/07

Dell offer a No-OS option in{insert your country here}! We also want to have the option of having (or is it not to have) No-OS as an option when buying a computer!

Everyone fill in your own {insert your country here}.

If this doesn't work then create your own idea, it worked for Linux, why not No-OS?

Update: Added all possible computer systems offered by Dell.

dell_admin1 07/11/07	Dell already offers a number of systems without an operating system installed on the hard drive. (For example, in the U.S., we have the N-Series.)
jorge 07/11/07	But not world wide.
jorge 07/11/07	Almost forgot don't forget to merge the rest of the No-OS ideas while you're at it. Thanks!
jmxz 07/11/07	@jorge: Furthermore, it sounds like they want requests for each individual model where you might want No OS:. (based on the comments from Dell under this idea http://ideastorm.com/article/show/67329 ) Re: no OS on other models - you might want to pick a model you'd want to see added to Dell's n-series, and then post an idea specifically saying that. (unless you already have) Just a thought.
jorge 07/11/07	Updated accordingly. Thanks, I guess I forgot that comment. Funny how somedays the idea is just not there even though the concept is right in front of us.
leonbravo 07/11/07	These solutions will rule the Colombian Market. What If I want to pay the ship, what can I do to have one of these ubuntu's notebooks
davmcn 07/11/07	ok....i understand that ..... hey wondeirng does Dell charge for Linux Os?
future_maker 07/11/07	how do you know that the darn thing works if there is no OS?
davmcn 07/11/07	True...i was just wondering....sorry it is unrelated...Sorry.
jorge 07/11/07	Who needs an OS to see if it works? Not me. What do you think people who build their own computers do? There is no pre-installed OS for those computers is there. Heck how does Dell put a computer together? Installs the OS first then add the motherboard and CPU? Come on man, without the hardware the OS is nothing.
davmcn 07/11/07	Very True..
jmxz 07/11/07	future_maker: An OS is not a decent test vector for any part of a computer. If testing a complete system was the goal, booting a memory checker (memtest86) and a hard drive checker (badblocks) from removable storage would be far more comprehensive than running any OS. Indeed any test that covers testing writes to the hard disk would wipe out any OS that was installed there.
future_maker 07/12/07	Joge and jmxz, good points indeed. But, I just wander how can a lowly windows user like me can know that what I bought (if I ever again buy non-Dell ;-) is working. What I mean, say I buy NOS puter put my OS on it and peripheral X is not functioning. Did I put a wrong driver or X has a bad chip? If it comes with any OS I can run it make sure it works, wipe the HD clean and proceed with myOS install knowing that HW is very likely OK. (Yes, I know a driver in one OS can hide an internal problem that my OS's driver will choke on.) Troubleshooting HW issues is not my kind of fun, machine is just a tool not entertainment. Thanks again for clearifying testing issues, you are absolutelly right that qualtiy control goes a bit beyond of kicking the tires. But I like to have a chance to kick some tire ;-)
jmxz 07/12/07	future_maker: "how can a lowly windows user like me can know that what I bought (if I ever again buy non-Dell ;-) is working. ...Did I put a wrong driver or X has a bad chip?" I can't resist the half-joking answer "boot from a Ubuntu Live CD" and see if the hardware works. I don't know if Windows lets you download a live CD version of that OS for $0 to let you see if it works specifically with Windows, tho.
jorge 07/16/07	@future_maker: if you bought a No-OS computer you'd be forced to learn how to do it and empower yourself in the process! Then you can gain insight into mastering you computer not the other way around.
future_maker 07/17/07	Sorry Jorge, I am too busy mastering the Universe ;-) However if mastering your computer is entertaining to you, you go gi... boy. But enough joking let's stay on subject. If enugh people wants NOS computers (to save the step of uninstalling a free OS) great, Dell is selling those and that's that. As long as nobody who buys a computer gets a nasty surprise when he/she turns it on, everything is good. For most people a computer is just a tool.... unlaess ia made by Apple, then it is a cool tool.
petzymathuram 07/17/07	U know something there was a news in the paper recently stating that the Chennai Corporation (govt) has Open Office org for it's systems and data maintainence installed ....;)
jorge 07/17/07	What in the @#$# does that have to do with No-OS?
phubert 07/17/07	No OS = No Microsoft, Open Office = No Microsoft Office????
jorge 07/17/07	No-OS = No-OS OpenOffice = http://www.ideastorm.com/article/show/62047
phubert 07/17/07	So, you don't like tangents, jorge??? How'd you get through trigonometry? :-D
jorge 07/17/07	Well getting the winker off to a better place I hope.
amir 07/23/07	Merged Idea originally posted 07/13/07 Sell PCs with no OS I think many people would want to choose the OS they like for their PCs (desktop or notebook). This could be another Linux distribution (other than Ubuntu) or the OS somebody has just written. I think it is not fair to force people to buy a particular model with a particular OS. I think the OS should be optional. You buy the computer and there are options for OSs. You can choose MS products or a factory-installed Linux or maybe just buy the computer without any particular OS. After all, Dell is a computer producer. Dear Dell! Please sell me a computer! I would take care of the OS. p.s. It will make clear how much the customers are paying for the OS.
iv2101 07/23/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/13/07 check out dell.com/nseries
amir 07/23/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/13/07 This is not what I meant. I mean every single model (desktop or notebook) should be available also without OS.
iv2101 07/23/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/13/07 This will take a damn long time...
jorge 07/23/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/13/07 Hay! Stop it! Don't Dupe ME!
amir 07/23/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/13/07 Technically, it does not need anything special. They just get rid of the OS installation. Business is yet another thing.
jorge 07/23/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/13/07 DUUUUPPPPEEEE!
davmcn 07/23/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/13/07 dell_admin1 can you merge with others please..
amir 07/23/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/13/07 I searched the website and did not find a proposal like this. If there is one, could you point me to that?
jmxz 07/23/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/13/07 Until Dell responds to one of the NoOS ideas (on direct2dell or ideasinaction or better by offering it across all systems & countries) I'd rather they didn't merge it. I strongly suspect they have a list of "already looked at that" ideas. While I can't imagine why they didn't notice the NoOS ideas before and respond to them earlier, somehow they didn't - and if merged this will get lost too.
jmxz 07/23/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/13/07 @jorge: Hmm... since you voted against this one, when it gets merged I guess that'll mean you'll be counted as a vote against the original NoOS idea too?
gmat 07/23/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/13/07 .
amir 07/23/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/13/07 Right! Thanks jmxz and gmat. I will vote for all those ideas. Honestly, I did not find them beforehands!
davmcn 07/23/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/13/07 Thanks Gmat sorry amir i didn't have time to look for them.
amir 07/23/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/13/07 But, I noticed that there are not so many votes for these proposals. Why is that so? Any idea?
gmat 07/23/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/13/07 .
amir 07/23/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/13/07 what about the original one? That one is also not very much appreciated (51 votes?)
davmcn 07/23/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/13/07 @Amir: if you want to know put a comment and ask them or read the ones that are already there.
gmat 07/23/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/13/07 .
davmcn 07/23/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/13/07 Yeah, Thanks for clarifying that to Amir (Gmat)
amir 07/23/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/13/07 Thanks gmat!
jorge 07/23/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/13/07 If the idea isn't popular why are there so many dupes? Why do we keep talking about it? Why is it mentioned anytime a Ubuntu vs Vista price comparison is done? Why? @jmxz: I'm just sick of the dupes, maybe 50 ideas on fixing this and well we're still on square one. If its not fixed I'm going on a dupe war very soon!
davmcn 07/23/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/13/07 Dell_admin has to merge them soon if He/She has time to do so...they are getting annoying..
cosh 07/23/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/13/07 I'm not bothered at all by this being a duplicate - it should be voted for all the same, for two reasons: 1) Nobody ever sees old ideas except the regulars. Or this wouldn't have been posted in the first place. We need this so that all the people who would vote for it if they could see it, can. 2) When duplicates are merged, I'm not sure what happens to the votes. So if you demote this it could end up being a demote overall even if you promoted the one it gets merged into. Who knows? Nobody knows. Not even dell_admin1. 3) Dell are too ******* incompetent to pay attention to this simple idea despite the number of times we've posted it. So let the storm roll!
jmxz 07/23/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/13/07 @davmcn: "annoying" What's more annoying - new users not wading through all the old ideas or Dell not responding to this no matter how many people vote for it, ask for it, comment on it, etc.
davmcn 07/23/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/13/07 Sorry, wasn't trying to be annoying but it would be better wouldn't it?
davmcn 07/23/07	Thanks For Merging.
howlingmadhowie 08/01/07	dell should really do this. it would be great to have a list of options under operating systems starting with "no operating system (0€)" and pop-ups or similar to inform the customer which bits of hardware work with which operating system. it's the only way the gnu-community will ever accept a first-tier oem. until dell does this, it is clear where the loyalties of this company lie. i also wonder why anybody would vote against this. if you want to buy a computer from dell with an operating system, then buy one! the real problem is to be found elsewhere: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Comes_vs_Microsoft_Petition_Shows_How_Microsoft_Bl...
jdelidc 09/22/07	make no os on all systems
leonbravo 10/25/07	I saw at hp site they offer some (most) computers even laptops with the option of free-dos, for you living in USA your choice is pretty simple buy hp not dell. In latinoamerica however is not as easy you can't simply find offers with linux or a non-windows system. I would like to invite you to say DELL "I am not going to buy you any computers, because HP offer is better". I must say I am gonna buy to whoever sell me computers with linux.

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