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ubuntu on my computer: open source for education

7070 points posted to Education, Linux by raymako 03/23/07 **UNDER REVIEW**

I am a french teacher working in the south of France .The school's computers are Dell and Nec computers.
Like most of my colleagues, I am using "opensource" (free) softwares, and specially Ubuntu for 2 years.
It works perfectly and the pupils who tried Ubuntu like it very much. I hope it will be possible to buy a Dell computer without Windows very soon and I hope that all the Dell computers of my school will use Ubuntu.
Not only because Ubuntu is free (even if it's not insignificant in a french school...) , but because working with Ubuntu forces you to understand and to think how and why you are using your (Dell) computer.
I know that I'm speaking and writing english language like a spanish cow, so I'm sorry.
I just want to finish my message with this: please be the first big computer manufacturer offering Ubuntu or Windows (which is very performant, but not the only one and specially at school) .

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pathway 03/26/07	La plupart des gens sont moins bons parleurs d'anglais, ils ne s'excusent pas.
phubert28 08/03/07	Merged Idea originally posted 04/17/07 Open Source for Better Education Do we want democracy to SURVIVE in the U.S.? Do we want our children to have all the tools necessary to keep the U.S. VITAL? Learning Windows teaches you nothing. Not one useful principle. Learning Linux and OSS teaches FUNDAMENTALS... and Open Source is analogous to OPEN INFORMATION... exactly what a Democracy demands for its very existence! DELL: Support Open Source in Education, for our nation, our children, and our future.
phubert28 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 04/17/07 del.icio.usdel.icio.usDiggDiggRedditRedditYahooMyWebYahooMyWebGoogleGoogleThese icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages.What's this? RePrintPrint Email Sun Microsystems chair touts open-source education for K-12 kids Associated Press Article Launched: 04/16/2007 03:31:27 PM PDT SAN JOSE - Since Sun Microsystems Inc. co-founder Scott McNealy stepped down as CEO to focus on his chairmanship full-time, he's been spearheading a side project to transform education the way digital music upended the recording industry. Though it's not part of his official duties at Santa Clara-based Sun, McNealy is spending a lot of time as pitchman for a project called Curriki - short for curriculum and wiki, which is a Web site allowing users to add and modify content and claim a piece of authorship. In the case of Curriki, parents, teachers and students can post and download free lesson plans, sample tests, book chapters and other materials. McNealy said the site has strict copyright protections, requiring intellectual property releases for all the original material it publishes. He said the idea is to lower the barrier to basic educational materials as more students get access to the Internet worldwide. McNealy said he is particularly concerned about developing countries where network infrastructure is sparse, and is encouraging local governments to boost network spending and adopt Curriki's open-source education model. That's why he chose China to launch the second phase of the site this week. McNealy is keynoting a Sun education conference Wednesday in Beijing, where he will announce added features to the site, www.curriki.org, including the ability to create personalized pages and a function allowing users to upload and Advertisement review documents in real http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_5680385
mrlinux11 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 04/17/07 Great help all the other countries, how about helping the US also ???
phubert28 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 04/17/07 true...
reg 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 04/17/07 boy, I just love that idea! :~)
reg 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 04/18/07 Install, and Learn: http://www.edubuntu.org/
phubert28 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 04/18/07 anyone have links to Linux/OSS in education ... I KNOW there's a site I've BEEN to...
premcv 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 04/18/07 hey phubert: here's what I've found a) OSEL b) SIGOSSEE / JOIN c) Why OSS in schools? d) Linux in Higher Education: Open Source, Open Minds, Social Justice e) OSEF
reg 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 04/19/07 Great Links premcv !
premcv 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 04/19/07 :) Thanks!
phubert28 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 04/19/07 And THIS is at least ONE of the links I was thinking http://www.schoolforge.net/
premcv 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 04/19/07 Oh yes, and that one too! I missed out on that yesterday!
phubert28 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 04/20/07 South Africa:Education dept eyes stronger free software policy http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?src=rss&id=1460 South Africa's education department may re-look at its policies regarding free and open source software and pursue a stronger open source strategy in light of the government's free software strategy adopted in February this year.
premcv 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 04/20/07 Wow, that's something. Most governments I believe are planning on the OSS front. I remember a couple of years ago, the Indian government did try something. I can't seem to find the link.
phubert 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 06/13/07 Tip of the Trade: Edubuntu http://www.serverwatch.com/tutorials/article.php/3682596<" When you need to set up a computer lab, classroom or meeting room in a hurry, look no further than Edubuntu, "Linux for Young Human Beings." Edubuntu is targeted at the classroom, but it's a dandy Linux terminal server for all occasions. You can literally have an entire network up and and running in an hour.
phubert 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 06/21/07 San Diego rolls out laptops with Linux http://www.eschoolnews.com/news/showStoryts.cfm?ArticleID=7178< eighth-largest district turns to open-source software to extend computers to every student *** However the laptops are NOT Dell... "For the project's hardware, San Diego is working with Lenovo to custom-design the laptops."
phubert 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 06/25/07 Goodbye Edubuntu, hello SUSE http://education.zdnet.com/?p=1118< anti-Edubuntu... just grass-roots [u]participation[/u] Choice is good.
reg 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 06/25/07 Ya - if you enjoy supporting NOVELL+Microsoft...
phubert 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 06/26/07 Well, reg, I'm in favor of alternatives... but I'm also willing to wait and see. This is news 'for evaluation' ... not advocacy.
reg 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 06/26/07 Every individual Class of 200x of each school district should be forced to write their own schools software, then all they get is what they make. Do they want internet? They better write a good TCP/IP stack and driver for the network card... GREAT NEWS: Because of the 'no child left behind' law - the lowest performing students are being shuffled into the highest performing school - mostly juvenile offenders - so now the bright kids can be pulled down to their level, and school crime can increase. 'No Child Left Unbinded'
phubert 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/02/07 India's Kerala state goes open source http://news.com.com/2100-7344_3-6194118.html< Kerala state government is counting on open-source software to boost its IT literacy rate.
phubert 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/17/07 Open source invading Australian education http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2007/071607-open-source-invading-australian.html< sparked your interest in open source technologies? My son. I was doing my PhD in between 1998 and 2002, and as part of the research that I was doing, I happened to come across the expected prices for the Microsoft licences for the school sector as a forward estimate, in the budget papers for the Victorian government. The amount of money surprised and shocked me. "
mhagle 08/03/07	Merged Idea originally posted 05/04/07 Edubuntu I am a teacher who has been using Linux in the classroom for the past ten years. Currently my favorite educational distribution is Edubuntu. It is so stable, easy to use (my small children use it) and offers hundreds of applications that are wonderful for educational use. I would like to see Dell offer Edubuntu to schools.
spm 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 05/05/07 This isn't something that Dell should do on it's own. It should perhaps partner with an organisation that can provide support for Linux in education (perhaps Canonical) and provide a maintained distro for that. Dell would then simply do custom preloads with school orders and supply CDROMs for re-installation.
badblood 08/03/07	Merged Idea originally posted 05/06/07 Promote Ubuntu Computer for Schools Produce and market an inexpensive computer-series running Ubuntu for use in primary and secondary schools. Captivate our children with Dell, Ubuntu and value for money. Think about Edubuntu too.
mhagle 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 05/06/07 Absolutely! I am a teacher and love Edubuntu. :)
maccam94 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 05/06/07 I'm on my town's Technology Committee, which will be deciding what technology gets used in the schools for the next 3-5 years, and I'm pushing for Ubuntu/Edubuntu. They are worried about getting support however. Being able to see companies like Dell putting Linux in the mainstream will definitely help, as well as Canonical's support contracts.
mhagle 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 05/25/07 Also, the online support for all Linux and OSS products is exceptional. I am just an elementary music teacher, but have always found the help I needed easily online.
beparas 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 05/27/07 it must be in college
ubuntu_guy386 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 06/06/07 ... only if its Edubuntu!
badblood 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 06/06/07 As you wish
oagostinho 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/30/07 Hi, I would like to propose that Dell will sell Ubuntu's computers but oriented to the school's market. Use Ubuntu to give opportunity to the poor childs around the world to learn and use computer with Ubuntu Operating System. Like another initiatives, but in this case use Ubuntu to reach a lot of people. Dell will sell computer with the characteristics and functionalities to the school market and specially to the poor's child. Orlando Agostinho Computer Engineer Lisbon/Portugal
badblood 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/30/07 dell_admin1 I think posted an older idea on schools and Ubuntu - if you want to merge this one rather than delete it.
lamar_air 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/30/07 There is even a version of Ubuntu that is targeted towards learning... Edubuntu http://www.edubuntu.org
oagostinho 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/30/07 @Hi, badblood Let the community make their choice! MayBe, this way give more force to this idea! See Ya!! Orlando
badblood 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/30/07 Orlando did you mean to classify this idea under the 'delete requests' category? Because you did....
oagostinho 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/30/07 @Hi, BadBlood! It was not my intention! Pardon me! I've just corrected this situation! See Ya!
badblood 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/30/07 @DUPLICATEOF http://www.ideastorm.com/article/show/66917/Promote_Ubuntu_Computer_for_Schools
luisa 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/30/07 YES WE WANT IT!!!! Free http://www.freepenguin.it/index-en.html
ammaann 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/30/07 Ubuntu comes in the EDUBUNTU version for schools and there are versions for others like governments. We took a Dell Server that would often use Red Hat as the OS and loaded Edubuntu instead. We tested the EDUBUNTU and found that it pretty much could replace the Win2K and worked well with the APPLES and WIN XP desktops with WORD, EXCEL and POWERPOINT files readable. There's an additional bonus of the terminal services built in to control Web browsing and offer up applications from a central location. To enable Compatibility with the 2007 and 2009 MS OFFICE versions we are recommending that the files be stored with one copy using the open source formats which the new OFFICE versions support. We are looking at the Ubuntu Dell machines as terminal clients instead of desktops.
michaeldahl 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/30/07 Please allow educators to order Ubuntu systems using our Dell Premiere account
masterr 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/30/07 Might I suggest offering the Edubuntu variant of Ubunut for these systems if this is considered.
tekhawk 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/30/07 edbuntu
badblood 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/30/07 @DUPLICATEOF http://www.ideastorm.com/article/show/66917/Promote_Ubuntu_Computer_for_Schools
uebec 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/30/07 Yes it's a good idea, YOU WOULD GET MANY MONEY, YOU WOULD HELP THE SOCIETY, YOU WOULD SELL MANY PC'S!! THERE IS THE GNU/LINUX's DISTRIBUTION FOR THIS: EDUBUNTU Segnaled by Free http://www.freepenguin.it/index-en.html
badblood 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/30/07 @DUPLICATEOF http://www.ideastorm.com/article/show/66917/Promote_Ubuntu_Computer_for_Schools
jervis961 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/30/07 Alright dell_admin10, woo hoo. congrats badblood. let me know if you get the points for this or not.
badblood 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/30/07 OMG thanks. A break at a last!. No I didn't get any points.
jervis961 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/30/07 Hmmm, so we lose points if an idea is deleted or merged but don't gain anything when one is merged into our own? I had the same thing happen to me. Oh well I still got myself into the top 20 finally, only took 69 ideas.
badblood 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/30/07 And I just lost 2000 plus points and I have no idea why. Nothing has been deleted in ages...? Where is our high priestess anyway?
jervis961 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/30/07 The site went down the other night while admin_1 was out with a family emergency and dell_admin (the newest in the bunch) was filling in. When the site came back up all my numbers had changed, I think the system doesn't keep active tally on everything so once in a while it does an audit and corrects the numbers.
badblood 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/30/07 You're probably right. I was a bit disappointed. But anyway I've gotten rid of all my stupid posts so almost all the points these days are in the black, which is an improvement, though I do miss the CompuBeaver and the mousemouse.
jervis961 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/30/07 Those were fun, as well as all the funny computer shots we found like the microwave, coffee machine and beer keg.
badblood 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/30/07 The days of Chaos.
jmxz 08/03/07	Merged Idea originally posted 06/05/07 Explain the "production concerns" your sales reps are talking about regarding Linux systems. In a comment in another IdeaStorm thread someone writes http://www.ideastorm.com/article/show/67976 Here's what my Dell Higher Ed rep had to say when I tried to order a Dell E520n with Ubuntu: "After much research, I determined that the Ubuntu versions are not available to higher ed customers for several reasons. As new units, we are not yet able to determine if Canonical can provide the support. Plus, there are production concerns. They are only available to U.S. consumers which means that you would not be able to purchase through the [sic] tax exempt customer number." Idea 1: We're curious what the production concerns are? Can you tell us in case we should be concerned about the production quality of non-higher-ed ubuntu systems? Or is it something minor like a shortage of stickers that don't say Vista? Idea 2: Ask Canonical if they can provide the support?
kevintrooper 08/03/07	Merged Idea originally posted 07/03/07 Support Edubuntu for cheap kids/Teen PCs (maybe even school)! Edubuntu is great for kids and Teens! It is great for school, kids games, and more! It also includes gaim aka Pidgen messenger! A great way Dell could sell edubuntu is by making a clone of ASUS EEE . in Desktop version it could be able to connect to a TV so little kids and teens dont require a monitor! Thank You, KT
badblood 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/03/07 trooper mate it's a duplicate
davmcn 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/03/07 Hey, hey this site is for anyone to post what they wish.
kevintrooper 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/03/07 WTF? what does that mean? and this is not a dup, well maybe it is but i didnt know!
davmcn 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/03/07 ok well this site is for anyone to post their thought on what they would like and so on. Maybe this user here didn't see it that is was already posted on here cause there are more than 6000 Post trusts me it takes a bit of time to find them. but anyways he is aloud to put what Ideas he wishes.
badblood 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/03/07 don't be angry
davmcn 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/03/07 i am not angry, just imforming Him.
kevintrooper 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/03/07 ???
davmcn 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/03/07 nevermind it isn't Important anymore.
premcv 08/03/07	@dell_admin*: I do notice that the merged content had the status set to Under Review, yet the original Idea does not have that status. Doesn't it mean that when the status of a merged content contains Under Review, the main idea too will take the status?
unix 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/04/07 Windows or Mac OS are the best OS to use because in entreprises almost all users run on these systems. I don't think Linux is a good idea for children.
kevintrooper 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/04/07 Yes, me teacher, little 3rd graders use it. theres theise great little learning prgrams so kids learn to use the computer and then it goes into learning! it has tux, ... its great
unix 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/05/07 In my school in France we used macs and then, at middle school PC's but never Linux PCs. How do you want kids use linux and then Windows or Mac OSX. It's so different!! Linux is a good experience but not very usefull. unix25
kevintrooper 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/05/07 That is everyones opinion. I have talked to many teachers who prefer edubuntu/ubuntu then windows or mac! and getting of the school subject it would be great for my kids! kinda like the asus eee 107, small portable laptop
unix 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/05/07 I would prefer a macbook with MAC OS X Leopard
kevintrooper 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/05/07 OK, but this is the dell page, shoo shoo over to the mac page, jk jk
unix 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/05/07 I installed Ubuntu and then couldn't see it anymore. I uninstalled it and I reinstalled Windows XP.
kevintrooper 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/05/07 happened to me i contacted them and it worked after that! OK Unix we get it u dont like ubuntu, or whatever u like MAC! OK! thanx!! Geez
insig 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/08/07 that would make a great pc for my kids
davmcn 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/08/07 I Think Windows Os Would be more recommended for Students/kids
kevintrooper 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/08/07 but its a little cheap kids pc it would be better
davmcn 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/08/07 yah that also...
kevintrooper 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/08/07 so it would be enough for kids to play surf the internet use GAIM, ... my 9 year old and 13year old would love it!
davmcn 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/08/07 are you saying they make cheap Laptops or pc's for students/Kids? or those kiddy laptops that you can buy in Wal-Mart?
kevintrooper 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/08/07 No! lol. i mean they should make a pc or laptop like this one: ASUS EEE well but better! my teen has been using edubuntu over windows because it runs fast and it has the things he needs sometimes the little one goes on miniclip and i put a learning software on there for him!
davmcn 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/08/07 Yah it looks cool i like it, Would Be cool for us people that don't feel like carrying the weight of the world around with us...but yet ASUS and Toshiba already sell them and they are not really good sellers yet. i think normal laptops would do the trick. Thanks For The Clip.
davmcn 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/08/07 But yet i don' t think it would be a bad idea dell has nothing to loose making these laptops.
kevintrooper 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/08/07 i no!
nestleice 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/08/07 i like that asus eee it would be great if dell offered a cheap laptop like asus. becaus that asus eee is about $199
kevintrooper 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/08/07 thats right that will be hard with dell to compete! cuz i wanna buy one!!!! hey dell should really compete all over the internet people say wow, or im gettin one! its crazy!
winoffice 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/09/07 Vista is much easier and user-friendly than this edubuntu. Also, you can get much more familiar with PCs with it. Also, if you are buying for students, then you are eligible for special academic discounts (and really, they are big!).
winoffice 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/09/07 NO by all means, DO NOT preinstall edubuntu! Don't you realize how much my children want Vista? And how I need MS Office, IIS, etc. Should you have to pay for all that? Well, no. But just because edubuntu (or any other ubuntu or more generally Linux for that matter), is free does NOT mean that I want it!
kevintrooper 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/09/07 Ok, its everyones opinion! well i can still use vista after they (if they) choose to preinstall edubuntu
kevintrooper 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/09/07 an seriously there should be a small cheap laptop for $199 for kids/students/anyone, and its cheap by installing edubuntu! I know allot of people who would buy!
insig 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/09/07
insig 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/09/07 I WOULD LOVE AN ASUS EEE WITH EDUBUNTU FOR MY GRANDCHILDREN
kevintrooper 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/09/07 yes, but i would buy it for my kids!
nestleice 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/09/07 well im only 15 but i would still buy one
kevintrooper 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/12/07 WTF? who deleted all the info text?
premcv 08/03/07	@dell_admin*: I do notice that the merged content had the status set to Under Review, yet the original Idea does not have that status. Doesn't it mean that when the status of a merged content contains Under Review, the main idea too will take the status?
kevintrooper 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/28/07 so if u like the eee vote for my othr topic about the eee
kevintrooper 08/03/07	Merged Comment originally posted 07/28/07 i ment the eee clon idea
dell_admin10 08/03/07	Changed status to UNDER REVIEW.
premcv 08/03/07	Oh cool! Thanks!

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