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Make a DELL OS X PC

-120 points posted to Dell, Operating Systems, Desktops and Laptops by bassaf 03/08/07

Make a deal with Steve Jobs and have OS X installed on new Dell PCs with style and affordable price, so my father can actualy use a computer without being a systems engineer.

ericr 03/08/07	If you can convince Steve Jobs to do it , I think Michael Dell would probably do it. But I don't think you will. Apple went down that road once and then killed it. I don't think they'll do it again without a BIG reason.
benjesuit 03/08/07	Or.... Just buy your dad a Mac. Unless you mean a dual boot Win OS and OS X on a Dell. But if you Buy a Mac, you can virtualize Win OS on it. Check out Parallels Desktop for Mac. It's $80. http://www.parallels.com/
ericr 03/08/07	He never said anything about dual systems. If he buys a Mac, he has OSX. If he does want both OS's, the better bet is a Mac running a dual boot. Bootcamp is included and supported on the next OSX version. Once it's in, his father will look at it as a simple Mac (which it is), but he can still go up and boot into Windows at will. He would just need to set it to boot back to OSX when done.
benjesuit 03/09/07	That's where Parallels Desktop comes in handy. No need for dual boot. It virtualizies Multiple OS while the Host OS is running. I'm going to buy it (PC version) when I buy a new Dell later this year because I have some legacy 16 bit programs that I use which had no replacement and I'd like to run Ubuntu also.
marvmax 03/09/07	Did Apple do the licensing fiasco when Jobs was at the helm? I can't remember but it may have predated his return. Apple may be amenable to something like this with Dell. The trouble with the last time was Apple was hoping that those who licensed the OS would make low end machines and leave the more profitable high end to Apple. That didn't work so Apple killed the program. Since Dell seems to really like the computer as commodity market they might not mind marketing low end Apple OSX machines.
ericr 03/09/07	benjesuit- Running multiple OS's at the same time can cripple a well a computer can run. It's always better to run one at at time. However I hope that someone can fix this in the future, by somehow hibernating (or similar) one OS when switching to the other and vise versa. marvmax- I believe Stave Jobs is the one who killed the licensing. It was done while he was out and he killed it when he came back. I could be wrong though. I didn't look it up. You make a good point about licensing for low-end. I think you might be right about that. I still think Steve wouldn't just do it on a whim and would really look for the right time and reason to do it. Perhaps he will continue to try to chip away from the Windows market and when he feels he's reached the peak he'll open it up.
benjesuit 03/09/07	Ericr, Not so much true anymore that systems are crippled by virtualization. Intel released chips with VT technology. I've run a demo version of parallels Workstation and it runs very fast. Faster than VMware's player. Check out Intel's VT here: http://www.intel.com/products/vpro/index.htm
ericr 03/14/07	benjesuit - True. These days we have dual-core which will help at running both systems at once, assuming you have a good amount of RAM. And of course this wasn't the case back when Apple killed it.
1010011010 05/15/07	Merged Idea originally posted 03/06/07 Mac OS X on Dell hardware Michael Dell has said that he would like to ship Mac OS X on his hardware. You should really work with Apple to make that idea a reality. While Apple is unlikely to completely open its operating system for installation on any hardware, it will make limited partnerships that don't jeopardize its revenue. For example, when Apple partnered with HP to sell iPods. What Steve doesn't want is a repeat of "Mac Clones" (nearly) bankrupting Apple. By selectively choosing "clone" partners, Apple can open the market for "Mac OS X PC" (MacPC as the 'brand', perhaps? "Buy a Dell MacPC and get a free printer!") vendors without hurting itself. Dell would be a great partner. And both Dell and Apple customers would like more choice. on the Dell side, we'd like more OS choices. On the Apple side, we'd like more hardware suppliers.
ryanbrooks 05/15/07	Merged Idea originally posted 04/28/07 OS X on a Dell I would buy a Dell if they had OS X on them and were cheaper than the Apple Computers. I think I can safely say that Apple Computers are priced about 50% higher than it costs to build them. As it may be true that that is what some people are willing to pay for something that makes them look cooler than everyone else, I am not really one of them. I love OS X on a MacBook, and am happy with it, but would be just as happy with it on a nice Dell Inspiron, just a thought. This may be difficult, and Apple would probably NEVER agree, but if they did, start a line of dell made apples.
reg 05/15/07	Merged Comment originally posted 04/28/07 Ah, there is a reason that Apple posted $700,000,000 in profit for the last quarter, while other computer companies are in the red, losing money. Apple delivers a qualitatively better computer, and more enjoyable computer experience, even supporting Windows XP and Vista - if you really want to do that to such a beautiful machine... You can buy a Toyota or a SAAB - both are cars to get you from A->B both good quality, but what exactly do you want from your car? The idea of business is to offer products and services - for a profit. Those profits feed your employees, your children, keep stockholders happy, and grow the business in the future...
bennish 05/15/07	Merged Comment originally posted 05/01/07 oh god. OSX will not run on anything but a mac. OSX will not run on anything but a mac. OSX will not run on anything but a mac. OSX will not run on anything but a mac. OSX will not run on anything but a mac. OSX will not run on anything but a mac. OSX will not run on anything but a mac. OSX will not run on anything but a mac. DO WE UNDERSTAND YET?
reg 05/15/07	Merged Comment originally posted 05/01/07 OS X runs on ANYTHING you load it into... x86 OS X 86 Installation Guides. Do YOU Understand Yet, or do I have to show you more pictures? Or perhaps an entire web community dedicated to nothing other than Mac PCs - OS X on Dell hardware? http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page Pay attention, there will be a quiz later...
bennish 05/15/07	Merged Comment originally posted 05/02/07 ahhem.. I can see I'm going to have to spell this out for you Apple Inc. will not allow OSX to be distributed and run on anything but a Mac. Apple Inc. will not allow OSX to be distributed and run on anything but a Mac. Apple Inc. will not allow OSX to be distributed and run on anything but a Mac. are you happy mr sarcasm? it will not LEGALLY run on anything else. we are talking about getting something to work legally and with dell's support, right? Who here can see Dell actually doing this? Is Michael gonna hack around, without ASKING apple, and release something like this that, although clever, is completely unsupported? Please pay attention to REALITY and REASON. There WILL be a quiz. DO WE UNDERSTAND NOW? OR DO I NEED TO SPEAK 1337 H4x0r??
reg 05/15/07	Merged Comment originally posted 05/04/07 Apple Inc. doesn't care as long as you still end up buying legit copies of their overpriced version of BSD.
bennish 05/15/07	Merged Comment originally posted 05/08/07 hehe - that's what it is, but unfortunately apple does care... even when people ask them they say no - because steve jobs knows perfectly well that if osx was used on non apple computers it would have the same failure rate as other operating systems. and didn't you hear? apple invented bsd. and the computer. and the earth.
reg 05/15/07	Merged Comment originally posted 05/09/07 That's Mr. Sarcasm, SIR! to you... OS X 10.5 will end up getting Bit Torrented just like that 10.4 - fools go where angles fear to tread.
bennish 05/15/07	Merged Comment originally posted 05/09/07 true dat
ryanbrooks 05/15/07	Merged Idea originally posted 04/28/07 OS X I would buy a Dell if they had OS X on them and were cheaper than the Apple Computers. I think I can safely say that Apple Computers are priced about 50% higher than it costs to build them. As it may be true that that is what some people are willing to pay for something that makes them look cooler than everyone else, I am not really one of them. I love OS X on a MacBook, and am happy with it, but would be just as happy with it on a nice Dell Inspiron, just a thought. This may be difficult, and Apple would probably NEVER agree, but if they did, start a line of dell made apples.
pro2ghz 05/15/07	Merged Idea originally posted 03/27/07 Mac OS X on Dell Why dont we get Mac OS X on Dell. What Did Mr. Dell ever Steve Jobs or such to support Dell Inc. with Mac OS X systems. If they do? This we make Dell become the king of the computer market. Also, we should do this because at forst we have Linux. Thus why not add Mac OS x?
steve2 05/15/07	Merged Comment originally posted 03/27/07 1.) duplicate 2.) Apple doesn't want to do that
robertical 05/15/07	Merged Comment originally posted 03/28/07 Dell is ugly compared with Apple. People wouldn´t buy Dell.
reg 05/15/07	Merged Comment originally posted 03/28/07 So Cute!
general_tso 05/15/07	Merged Comment originally posted 03/28/07 Dell's should look cooler but not OS X, gawd please no.
cpeter9 05/15/07	Merged Idea originally posted 03/20/07 Mac OS X Maybe Dell can work with Apple to get Mac OS X on a Dell. Vista and/or Microsoft (anything) is garbage.
anatian 05/15/07	Merged Comment originally posted 03/20/07 NO. NO NO NO NO. Use Ubuntu Linux (www.ubuntu.com)
hemolo 05/15/07	Merged Idea originally posted 04/20/07 Add Mac OS X Please ask Apple to allow its OS on Dell computers
cosh 05/15/07	Merged Comment originally posted 04/20/07 It won't work. The OS is proprietry and works so well because Apple control the harware, the firmware, and the software. Yes you can install it on a PC. No it doesn't work properly. Why would you want OS X on a Dell machine anyway?! Buy a MAC!!
bennish 05/15/07	Merged Comment originally posted 04/22/07 The whole reason osx works so well is that it's stringently controlled. Only the approved hardware is used with it -impossible on an OS that is made for many vendors. This is why Mac failed once before on clones, and why they're reluctant to do it again. It would undermine everything they claim about reliability. The closed-system concept is what keeps apple going (you know what i mean, not closed as in incompatible - don't get offended maccers) Besides which, Dell already asked them, they already said no.
velegno 05/15/07	Merged Idea originally posted 05/10/07 Dell & Apple ¿What about a Dell whit OS X? I don't if Apple would agree with this but now that OS X runs in intel, perhaps they are interested about selling their OS with other hardware! Yes this sounds great... MADELL ¡Yes!
sayuuk 05/15/07	Merged Comment originally posted 05/10/07 YEEEHAAA
akidan 05/15/07	Merged Comment originally posted 05/10/07 Never going to happen. Sorry to bust your bubble.
yahurd 05/15/07	Merged Comment originally posted 05/11/07 apple is a hardware company, they make money from hardware.
reg 05/16/07	Apple is a profit gouging company - they make *phat profits* from huge markups on mundane hardware with slick software. Sell the slick software in a box for $199 - $3 to make the box and DVD = $196 in pure profit per OS X sold. Charge $29 per support call for non-mac owners, soon your looking at a cash flow 5x greater than the total number of iPods sold.
bennish 05/16/07	yeah but reg, you're forgetting one thing - steve jobs is an idiot. even if you're right, he'd refuse do it simply for the reason it wasn't HIS idea. a shame common sense isn't prevalent in the business world
reg 05/16/07	Steve Jobs wants to own/rule: computers, sony, music publishing, movie publishing, all tv stations, all cable and satellite networks, video games, digital recorders, rentals, hollywood, bollywood - and he is well on his way to doing all of the above and then some. More power to him if he can pull it off - and have OS X grow in the 2000s as Windows Grew in the 1990s. Soon People will equate using Windows with DOS and Commodore 64. 'Of course the new OS X supports obsolete legacy software from defunct publishers - like microsoft. Since some of the grand parents just love that real blue screen look and feel...'
bennish 05/16/07	you were saying this ten years ago weren't you ;) and apart from some diehards, we're not all worshipping steve (that's the non r-rated way i say it, i think you know how i want to describe some stevelovers)
reg 05/17/07	1997 - There still was some leftover software industry in the USA - before Windows KILLED them all. All gone: Lotus 1-2-3, Qattro Pro, Word Perfect, etc - lots of little software companies and Not so little software corporations were Felled by the wayside by a megamonopoly. 10 years ago you had a choice, Now Windows Vista essentially coverts the ownership of your hardware out of your hands and into the total control of Microsoft. Google Apps wants all your data too. Whatever happened to private property? In ten years tell me - will you be swiping your credit card to enable access to your Microsoft Data Center? Because by that time it will be illegal to write computer programs, punishable by Balmer Furniturecide.
bennish 05/17/07	are we losing grip on reality here? yeah, ballmer will also lead a coup and create deathsquads. and eat babies. don't get me wrong. ballmer's a f***tard, but that goes for both steves in my opinion. they deserve each other. Uncle Fester and Rev. Jim Jones, what a combination
fred989 07/24/07	Merged Idea originally posted 04/19/07 License and offer Apple's Mac OS X Who wouldn't want the world's most advanced operating system on their Dell PC?
coolfactor 07/24/07	Merged Comment originally posted 04/19/07 OS X works so well because the hardware it's designed to run on is designed with the same love and attention. Windows could be just as good if MS was in the computer hardware business and had quality engineers. OS X on any old PC box would become another Windows. Not a good idea.
cosh 07/24/07	Merged Comment originally posted 04/19/07 OS X is made for Mac's. You can't just slap it on another PC. It just won't work. But frankly, who would want that lovely os running on a black box Dell? Just get a Mac.
bennish 07/24/07	Merged Comment originally posted 04/22/07 Steve Jobs, is that you? You sneaky bugger, get back to work and stay off the Dell site...
shooters 07/24/07	Merged Comment originally posted 05/14/07 @DUPLICATEOF 64808
diogocamo May 12	Merged Idea originally posted May 11 The next step: DELL OS I think Dell should start to develop their own OS, why keep relying on the unreliable Microsoft Windows? Dell could keep the windows features that makes it popular and at the same time add some Mac OS and Linux like features like: - beautiful, easy, dinamic, usable and light user interface - an Os with only one version with full specs, not like Vista home, office, beach, school, etc... versions - a OS runing on a universal hardware configuration by Dell, wich makes it easier to obtain support even in blogs and forums from users that have exactly the same machine/setup as you, like apple's computers. Dell should be the leader of a new world order where the big guys are Dell and Apple.
phubert May 12	Merged Comment originally posted May 12 It makes more sense by far to simply use Ubuntu... but there's another alternative: ReactOS... actually there are quite a few alternatives, but ReactOS is aimed specifically at replacing Windows...
jervis961 May 12	Merged Comment originally posted May 12 This has been brought up before. If Dell creates its own OS it becomes competition for Microsoft and loses any special pricing most likely. People won't use Ubuntu because it isn't know well enough yet and a Dell OS would be even less known. Even if they somehow made the best OS in the world it would cripple sales..
phubert May 12	Merged Comment originally posted May 12 I only voted up for the first sentence in the summary... but I'm afraid it really doesn't make sense...
jervis961 May 12	Merged Comment originally posted May 12 I figured that was your reason. :D
jervis961 May 12	That was a bad merge. OS X is different than Dell creating its own OS.
phubert May 12	true, a bad merge, but the Dell OS thing was pretty pointless... maybe the earlier Dell OS submissions no longer exist?? Do the mods here KNOW computers and software?????

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