Don't waste time on Linux or any other Open Source software

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Don't waste time on Linux or any other Open Source software

-450 points posted to Linux, Operating Systems, Software by aiac13 03/05/07

Disregard all calls from these Open Source fanatics to offer Linux or any other OSS. Focus your attention on improving service and support to your existing lines of business. Any efforts to provide and support Linux or other OSS will most likely cause support and service to your existing lines of business to suffer. Don't legitimize Linux or other OSS, these are softwares and technologies only for the hobbyist, ignore them and soon they'll fade back into the woodwork, where they belong.

mrlinux11 03/05/07	"technologies only for the hobbyist" That is not a correct statement, Linux is in use in some very big businesses. You should do some research before making a statement like http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/linux/
aiac13 03/05/07	I'm well aware of the use of Linux's use in the enterprise, I just don't feel that it belongs there.
kokuryu 03/05/07	Really? Did you know that this web server runs on Linux? And as a matter of fact over 90% of all web servers in the world do as well? Linux has been legitimized for many many years. Windows was not the first operating system around. Unix was around far before Windows ever surfaced. All of the Windows NT line of OSs are based off of Unix as well. And so is MACs OS/X. And so is Linux. Why you believe they are for hobbyist is beyond me. The backbone behind every university in the world is run by either Unix or Linux. An overwhelming majority of mainframe computers run either Unix or Linux or a VMS alternative based on BSD Linux. Linux runs the business side of the world and the technical side of the world already. The INTERNET itself was founded on protocols developed using Unix. The fact that governments are recognizing Linux as a viable alternative to Windows, and the fact that both large and small corporations are looking to switch their desktops to Linux or MACs also shows what has been proven already over the years. It is about time you woke up and realized what is reality.
aiac13 03/05/07	First of all, 90% of all web servers running Linux? Really? Can you back that up? Why don't you start http://news.netcraft.com/archives/web_server_survey.html< you can skip the history lesson, son. I've not stated that I have anything against Unix. It's just Linux and OSS in general that I feel are a distraction in business environments. You can keep preaching but you won't convince me otherwise.
urbanvoyeur 03/05/07	I smell a troll...
aiac13 03/05/07	No, not a troll, just expressing a genuine opinion. I will concede that I do see limited specific value in Linux in enterprise environments. Applications such as VMWare ESX which basically take existing best of breed OSS components and use them as building blocks for a proprietary product are appropriate in the enterprise.
kyliemanders 03/05/07	Yes, linux / unix is ok as a web server but like the Mac it is primarily a tool for the enthuast / hobbyist types. I think open source is not a good idea for business.
howardnyc 03/05/07	disagree: LINUX should be supported for many different reasons, the least of which is that it is ann easy entry point for the gifted hobbyst as well as a good way for a COMP SCI undergraduate to tinker with stuff without fear of breakage the best reason for LINUX -- my POV -- is to keep Microsoft from slowing down R&D or the hardening of their stance when it comes to alternatives... a twitchy OEM is a responsive OEM...
urbanvoyeur 03/05/07	ROFL. I'm using Ubuntu 6.1 on a Dell Latitude D610 right now. This is my 3rd Linux laptop, my first Dell. I use it for blogging, writing,photo editing ---> www.urbanvoyeur.com & www.myspace.com/urbanvoyeur< my day job in government, we just started a pilot program for wholesale shift to Linux + Open Office on the desktop to increase stability & security while at the same time reducing software (and software related hardware [Vista]) upgrade costs. Linux has already made significant in-roads in our server room, especially in NAS and SANs So tell me again, how Linux is not ready for the Enterprise.
yesmathew 03/06/07	I have seen technical support spending too much time on Windows to keep virus and spy ware free. Which I feel is no value addition to customer. 80 percent of the complaints are for viruses and spy wares! So if Dell provides pre-installed linux, they do not have to worry about viruses and spy wares. They can actually add some value to service and support. They can take customer to a next level of computing... Take user to the next level of computing... http://www.dellideastorm.com/article/show/64563
phubert 03/06/07	If Linux is for hobbyists, why are so many high-end applications running on Linux clusters? Why is so much research being run on Linux machines? Why are so many of the top supercomputers running Linux? Why do Google and Amazon (and all top popular sites) completely committed to Linux? Oh, PLEASE COME ON now! Every comment and suggestion that Linux is for hobbyists can only come from one of two places: Ignorance. Those making money from supporting Microsoft.
aiac13 03/06/07	Well phubert, I'd contest that your comments can come from only one of two places: Ignorance Those making money from supporting OSS.
tomd 03/11/07	Yeah, give all that Linux server business to HP and IBM.. Not a smart move.
14thstjwalker 03/14/07	"Don't legitimize Linux or other OSS, these are softwares and technologies only for the hobbyist, ignore them and soon they'll fade back into the woodwork, where they belong." Mr. Gates, What have we told you about posting on this site? Seriously, Have you ever managed a data center? Or have you ever been in one? You'd be shocked at how much stuff really runs on linux.
phubert 03/14/07	Unfortunately for Mr. Gates, I suspect he already KNOWS how much is running on Linux! If the Linux DESKTOP becomes a common option, widely used, his MONOPOLY will be broken! The sad part is that Microsoft cannot be satisfied with a good business, they want EVERYTHING and, in that, want to cooperate with NOTHING they cannot control or absorb. Isn't this what totalitarian governments have always been about??? I find it MOST interesting that the Microsofties who have submitted hostile posts here are so opposed to CHOICE. I suspect they would be MOST upset if anyone proposed restricting THEIR choices in quite a number of areas,,, incomprehensible.
vmaster 03/15/07	aiac13, I recently changed(upgraded) from windows XP to ubuntu 6.10, after a slight issue with my wireless card, (which was due to there being a lack of open source drivers) I have found the experience to be extremely enjoyable. and when the final version of feisty is released, I shall upgrade, without paying a cent. Secondly, you dont make money supporting, or even making OSS. That's the whole point of it: to be freely availiable, and changable. Thirdly, all of these people are suggesting it as an option. This option will reduce the price of purchasing the PC, as well as offer a more stable computer, unhindered by the viruses and spyware that plague windows. To cut off the argument and novice users will not be able to use Linux, Ubuntu offer's a simple and user freindly way to search programs by name and description, and many programs that you may be used to may have linux versions. best of all, if, in the end, there is no linux version availiable, often Wine (Windows Emulator) can be used to run the program. (As is the case with iTunes) All in all, beyond driver issues, which cannot be blamed on linux developers, linux is thriving, and I beleive it exceeds the experience of Windows. Dell providing full support for linux would prevent the hardware issues entirely, and provide a nearly seamless experience.
izach 09/26/07	I think you're missing the point. It isn't about open source "Fanatics". It is about alternatives, and global competition. Open source couldn't existed w/o the support of major companies like IBM, BEA, etc. We've been there before when AT&T rulled the comm world, and IBM the computer world. Now we're enjoying the fruits of competition, and free market. So Dell please continue (even if is isn't as fast as I'd like it) with the Linus/Open Source direction.
winoffice Mar 15	aiac13: "Well phubert, I'd contest that your comments can come from only one of two places: Ignorance Those making money from supporting OSS." That is a nice reply that you have there, LOL! I agree with you there.
winoffice Mar 15	I promoted this idea because it is at the very least amusing, interesting and funny, better than many annoying things that are circulating on this Web site recently.

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