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Overclocking options

1182 points posted to Sales Strategies, Desktops and Laptops by carlobaluta 02/20/07

Have overclocking options in BIOS, as other motherboard manufacturers have. This should apply to high end gaming machines, designed for people who know what they are doing.
Also, i believe this kind of computers are way too pricey as I can always buy the parts and build such a machine for way less and with far more options...

Carlo

slugbug Apr 29	Merged Idea originally posted 06/29/07 Enable Overclocking features in the Bios Most PC enthusiasts enjoy overclocking their computers, and it would be nice to see Dell put some overclocking options in the motherboard bios.
undead999 Apr 29	Merged Comment originally posted 06/30/07 look at the XPS 720
iv2101 Apr 29	Merged Comment originally posted 06/30/07 PC enthusiasts build their own computers. The information Dell provides about its desktops is not sufficient to guarantee an overclock-ready computer: no power supply details, memory details (cas latency, heat spreader, etc), type of heat sink, number of fans and their types and locations, buffer size of the optical drive... If I were an overclocker, I'd assemble my own computer.
hephaestus Apr 29	Merged Comment originally posted 07/04/07 This will never be an option. One word -- warranty. Dell can overclock them from factory, where they can control the conditions and validate it, but forget about the idea of end-user overclocking.
cipher_dk Apr 29	Merged Idea originally posted 07/11/07 Overclocking I think Dell should make a choice of you can overclock your CPU on other computers than the XPS. It is really annoying that i cant Overclock my CPU on my Dimension E520, E6300@1.86GHZ so it could run 2.40GHZ that is really bad!
bbr Apr 29	Merged Comment originally posted 07/11/07 Why overclock, if you can simply have it run at a certain speed by default. Back in the old days you simply clicked on turbo, and never touched it again. 66mHz instead of 33 by default would have had the same effect back then. right now though, it'd be good for the environment to have the "option" to let it run at a lower speed than normal.
davmcn Apr 29	Merged Comment originally posted 07/12/07 i don't think overclocking a CPU is the best way to go faster it is really easy to fry them that way though
davmcn Apr 29	Merged Comment originally posted 07/17/07 Hey Guess what they have a factory Overclocked XPS model Now!
kwchang007 Apr 29	Merged Idea originally posted 05/13/07 Bios Supported Overclocking A bios that doesn't cripple a computer's overclocking abilities. I know Dell's are not made to overclock, but i also know they can at least get another 50 mhz out of the fsb. It doesn't have to be unlimited overclocking, just some. I would really like to overclock my e1505 i know the core 2 duo could get up to ~2.6 with no problem, espically on such a low fsb. and the heat shouldn't be too much of a problem with the laptop either, it has excellent cooling for a laptop. I'm sure other people would like to overclock their dell and get a little more out of the system. Not only would it be able to overclock, but undervolt your cpu, northbridge, and ram. By undervolting these pieces of hardware, your computer could save much more energy and put out less heat, this is escpially important in a laptop. There could be two categories in overclocking, extreme anything over a certain fsb/voltage which voids the warentee, and a limited overclock that does not void warentee (granted this would be quite a low limit) I really would like this as my sytem ages, and programs start to require more and more cpu power, and it would be helpful when i do stuff like photoshop, or decided to start folding or something of that nature.
thebittersea Apr 29	Merged Comment originally posted 05/13/07 only if there's a way to automatically void your warranty when you overclock. i promoted your idea.
kwchang007 Apr 29	Merged Comment originally posted 05/13/07 well...it's possible that by limting the max fsb, and only allowing very low voltage rasies that they wouldn't have to void warentee. but if you want to go for the best you can go, there has to be someway to upload like a "void warentee" to dell.
thebittersea Apr 29	Merged Comment originally posted 05/13/07 Why is "warentee" in quotes? I don't get it.
kwchang007 Apr 29	Merged Comment originally posted 05/13/07 it would be the message it sends to dell when you decide to go over a certian fsb/voltage. although it may just be better for the warrentee to be voided altogether. i have to sleep now, i'll probably be back tomorrow. thanks for the promotion btw. rocket, just saw your post. cause some people want the extra bit of performance, like i like to compete with people to have a faster computer, some people may need it for folding, or even something like work where they require the power, but don't have the money. Also, as the system gets older and more outdated, a slight overclock would be a solution for half a year or so. That, and the whole host of options you get in a well made bios. Also, if I didn't run my system overclocked, I could lower northbridge voltages, ram voltages and things like that, the only problem would be if the system became unstable, perhaps the bios will only load up the settings once post starts. hmm seems like i need to add some things in the article
rockettech Apr 29	Merged Comment originally posted 05/13/07 This might make sense on an XPS, but why on an Inspiron?
robertobiggio Apr 29	Merged Comment originally posted 05/14/07 i dont think so, i have an e1505 running on 2.16 core 2 duo t7400, comp becomes very hot under heavy load of applications/programs. i think motherboard would get burned out if over clocked to 2.6 or 3ghz. maybe over clocked processor for pc works. notebooks need special cooling device installed when overcooked.
shooters Apr 29	Merged Comment originally posted 05/14/07 @DUPLICATEOF 66326
tleavit Apr 29	Merged Comment originally posted 05/14/07 Dell standard componants are not exactly top of the line. The memory is standard most of the time unknown brands (cheap). Same with most of the rest of the hardware. These things would not respond to over clocking well. If you want to overclock, build your own.
jorge Apr 29	Merged Comment originally posted 05/17/07 How about have systems run as fast as they can without ruining the system then allow to underclock? Then you can underclock your system, benchmark it and then set it to max speed and re-benchmark, now you're over clocking! Should make you happy? No? Overclocking is like adding Nitros to your car, and the results can be unpredictable and expensive to fix if its not a catastrophic failure.
s_wel Apr 29	Merged Comment originally posted 06/03/07 The whole point of overclocking is to get the max out of componants for no extra cost an example of this is the entire core 2 duo line the base 1.8 can out perform the mid range e6600 when overclock and that isn't even thier limit they are regualy overclocked to 3ghz on air cooling this is the same for the e6600 it will outperform an extreme addition when overclocked. Brand new system within warranty - Don't overclock Old system coming to the end of it's useful life - overclock (what have you got to lose)
rockettech Apr 29	Merged Comment originally posted 06/04/07 Desktop Case with good airflow != laptop package
stargatefan Apr 29	Merged Idea originally posted 04/23/07 Customizable BIOS Which Allows For Overclocking What I would like to see is a non watered down version of BIOS on Dell Desktops, especially the XPS gaming line. The BIOS featured right now on Dell Computers allows for virtually no customizing room. Meaning that functionality for the allowance of Overclocking of any device is not available. I understand that this is to cap the amount of the support users might need, but it should be available for those who truly no what they are doing with their systems. If you are truly trying to minimize the needed support for customers who might cause damage to their machine because of th extended functionality of the BIOS. I suggest that you ship a computer with the normal BIOS parameters that Dell has laid down. Then post a flash upgrade online for users who properly know how to, and want to overclock their system. This way they can download the upgrade, flash their BIOS and now have control of delicate ops like overclocking.
jervis961 Apr 29	Merged Comment originally posted 04/23/07 Interesting read for you stargatefan. http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=3650
stargatefan Apr 29	Merged Comment originally posted 04/23/07 I wasn't aware of the availability of a system that can be overclocked. Still this is a laptop, something that I tend to stay away from overclocking do to heating issues. I was targeting more towards the desktop line. I only glanced at the article but from the looks of the outcome the overclocking wasn't very successful, I of course will read it in full at a later time.
jervis961 Apr 29	Merged Comment originally posted 04/23/07 Just wanted to give you an idea of how it would work out. I expect a desktop version would be better but the reviewer found that the laptop set up was horrible.
stargatefan Apr 29	Merged Comment originally posted 04/23/07 Thanks, for the article, I appreciate it.
cddistance Apr 29	Merged Comment originally posted Jan 14 I would also like this feature to be included with Dell systems. It may increase customer support requests, but in reality most of Dell's target market does not cover the technologically savvy/gamers. The XPS units are geared toward gamers, yet most prefer to build their own rigs or purchase more customizable systems.
flapjack Apr 29	Merged Idea originally posted 02/23/07 Allow bios changes completly unlock the bios so we can overclock on every desktop. The people who don't know how to work the bios don't look at it anyway/
gdwrnch3 Apr 29	Merged Comment originally posted 03/03/07 Would you give up your warranty to get an unlocked bios?
apokalypse Apr 29	Merged Idea originally posted Jan 13 Include overclocking choice include an overclocking choice for xps and xps gaming systems
bushlabs Apr 29	Merged Comment originally posted Jan 14 At least have a Bios order / option where from with-in you can customize CPU bus speed and Memory timings.
chama98 Apr 29	Merged Comment originally posted Jan 14 bad idea to someone who doesn't know what they are doing
illganjalli Apr 29	Merged Comment originally posted Jan 14 Are you kidding me? If Dell unlocked the multiplier in the Bios at least for the low quad core it would make me not want to return my computer. If they made those options available they would be the best computer manufacturer ever. Right now iam soooo mad because Dell told me I could overclock but I cant. And if I really wanted to I would have to set it each time I start the computer. Not only that but its only a .3 increase over stock. And finally for the icing on the cake Dell's motherboards are horrible! Why would you use BTX!!! And why would you skimp on the Heart Of The Computer. Everything is hindered if your motherboard is not quality. And yes I do own a dell XPS 720 which is getting returned soon.
delltech Apr 29	Merged Comment originally posted Jan 14 Mainly warranty issues. If you build a computer, you are taking on the responsibility of what you do to a computer, but if a manufacturer builds it and provides a warranty, they are responsible. It would be much too easy for someone to totally mess up the system, requiring replacement parts for an issue that was totally customer induced. Then you get to pay higher prices on the next system to cover the added warranty cost this generates.
cosmichellion Apr 29	Merged Comment originally posted Jan 14 It is my opinion that if someone wants to overclock and get every ounce of power out of your hardware then they should build your own PC from the ground up rather than rely on Dell to provide the option. It's a huge liability for them when these units fall into the hands of novices. I guarantee you Dell would get tons of posers trying to make warranty claims 'cause they smoked their systems.
delltech Apr 29	Merged Comment originally posted Jan 17 They do, it is the XPS 720 H2C. Just never going to happen on mainstream PC is what I meant.
delltech Apr 29	Merged Comment originally posted Jan 18 Ah but you specifically said "Gaming Monstor PC." If you want a monster, you pay for a monster. I'm not sure who else has factory overclocked systems, but I suspect they are all expensive.
s_wel Apr 29	Merged Idea originally posted 06/03/07 Unlocked overclocking Most dell pc's below the high end xps's have thier overclocking potential locked out it would be good to have it unlocked unlocked for those willing to void thier warranty to try this.
s_wel Apr 29	Merged Comment originally posted 06/03/07 sorry for the double word
ninefoot3 Apr 29	Merged Comment originally posted 06/03/07 Agreed. I've been stating this same idea in Dell Forums since I first got my XPS410 machine back in January. It's an XPS... supposedly a member of Dell's flagship lineup. While, I'm aware it's the lower end, the 410 has some decent power and the bios needs to be unlocked like the 700 series of XPS PC's. It's my warranty. If I wish to void it, it's my right. I'm sure Dell can figure out some sort of virtual cd-dog-bone-seal for any 'overclocking section' in the bios. What's great about the idea, is they could even offer it as a bios update, make it available only to those who login to download it, with a 1-time-use security, and let those who's warranties are about to run out or have ran out TWEAK AWAY... or like I said, let me be the adult I was when I agreed to pay for this machine and give me the right to void my own warranty.
jorge Apr 29	Merged Comment originally posted 06/03/07 @DUPLICATEOF Some other idea(s) already posted. They still won't do it because you will fry your motherboard and then try to get a free on warranty replacement. Dream on.
s_wel Apr 29	Merged Comment originally posted 06/03/07 Look jorge how many idea's are posted on this site? how am i meant to know that my idea is different from the other thousends of ideas?Duplicates are going to happen unless idea storm gets some sort of mechenism to inform the poster that there are similar articles already posted.
jorge Apr 29	Merged Comment originally posted 06/03/07 I just told you its a DUPLICATE, put it in the DELETED REQUESTS category and it will get deleted. I just Reported it to red flag it for dell_admin(X).
stroltz Apr 29	Merged Idea originally posted 02/27/07 Unlock the BIOS! The Dell BIOS is too locked down. I wish for the dell BIOS to be as open as possible; even to allow for some overclocking antics! I have had some issues with 3rd party PCI cards not working on new Dell machines. It is frustrating to be told by 3rd party vendor support that the problem is the Dell BIOS, and that it does not offer enough configuration options. It may be passing the buck, but that does not get your 3rd party PCI card working. To go along with freeing up the BIOS, a little overclocking options wouldn't hurt would it?
lleddell Apr 29	Merged Comment originally posted 02/27/07 It is almost same as Linux bios...
stillfunkyb Apr 29	Merged Comment originally posted 05/20/07 It would be great if Dell would unlock, or open up the BIOS!
d_o_w_n_s Apr 29	Merged Comment originally posted 10/26/07 For Real Dell, get a clue. Why not allow us to unlock the bios after a warranty runs out. It's not like you care what we do after that. I own 3 Dell desktops and a laptop. I will no longer buy anymore dells if im unable to unlock my bios and tweak my computer. The bottom line is we the consumer deserve more freedom to do what we want with are computer's then what where getiing now.
petzymathuram Apr 29	Merged Comment originally posted 10/26/07 dell owns...;)
dmitri Apr 29	Merged Comment originally posted 12/04/07 That goes for any computer I buy. Protecting BIOS from users that have no idea what they're doing is fine, but DELL should have an option where you could call or even check their website to unlock all the options in BIOS...
badrap Apr 29	Merged Idea originally posted Apr 28 Alow Overclocking Why can't you allow overclocking on all of desktops and laptops? I mean some of us are going to different PC manufacturers just for overclocking. You can make it somewhat changable and limit it. And make it so it voids warranty if you do overclocking.
jdelidc Apr 29	Merged Comment originally posted Apr 29 agree but you gotta give warnings in the bios that you can do damage to the system by overclocking
matt_d Apr 29	Merged Comment originally posted Apr 29 The XPS series gaming desktops allow overclocking of some components.
jdelidc Apr 29	Merged Comment originally posted Apr 29 but we want it on any machine
stormrider451 Apr 29	Merged Comment originally posted Apr 29 I think the majoirity of regular standard costumer is not interested in overclocking his PC. I mean, most people would disagree on overclocking if they were told that their recent thousand (s) dollar investment could be put at risk by it and it wouldnt be covered by warranty. There is a reason why XPS's only are the ones that are currently allowed to overclock, because usually its gamers that want it. I personally am a gamer, and I myself would never overclock a computer. I always try to get 4year warranty plans because I love to have that sense of comfort that I will be taken care of in the case of problems; and overclocking would destroy that.. So, even some gamers dont want to overclock the machines. HOWEVER.... Maybe what we could do is to allow overclocking on all computers but in the case that a person selects to overclock a PC that is NON XPS, he or she would be instructed to place the order via phone so that the costumer can be guided as to what this really means. It could be something similar as to when one chooses to add a BTooth mouse and keyboard bundle and they havent selected the BTooth card for the PC. It gives you a warning sign telling you, but in this case, it wouldnt let you continue unless you deselect the option or proceed to make your order by phone. People brush through warning messages all the time (unless like in this example they really cant go forward without reading it because it wont let you go on). Letting all computersbe overclockable and not taking these sort of preventive messures will result in a lot of costumers getting angry once their computer fries up and they realize they dont have any warranty. But, for XPS products, we could just leave it with a warning sign that simply states what the person is getting into and not stop him from proceeding with his order online.
sugarbear Apr 29	Merged Comment originally posted Apr 29 I agree it would be dangerous in the wrong, unknowledgeable hands.

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