Upgrade ability for Desktops!

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Upgrade ability for Desktops!

250 points posted to Desktops, Sales Strategies by ajmukon Mar 6

Increase the upgradability (sp?) of all Desktop units.

Currently, the only upgrade options are RAM, HD, Video card (which is in itself low), and Disk drives.

allow us the option of upgrading our motherboard, cpu, PSU (if we get a larger video card), above, etc (if you can think of anymore, post a comment!)

stormrider451 Mar 6	I think this idea would be good for high end gaming compus only because people who play games USUALLY have a bit more computer knowledge than the normal PC costumer.. If you give so many options, the average person will just get confused. I mean, I can imagine my mom not to mention my dad trying to figure out what motherboard to buy lol.. That be both hillarious and painful to watch :P,
ajmukon Mar 6	agreed, but i guess you could have an "advanced" option...
stormrider451 Mar 6	Yea, but many people, knowing how curious people can be, will hit that button. Especially when we are talking about a hundreds and sometimes thousands dollars investment. Curiosity will get the best of people and they wont restist at least taking a peek. And people might get scared off heh. Definetely a great idea for high end computers though. Maybe, just maybe, I wouldnt mind seeing an advanced option button for XPS products. But definetely not for common low end products.
zanlok Mar 6	Some advanced options like this are available on XPS. And Alienware does things more like this. Many specialized competitors already do as well. It would be nice to see Dell with a presence in the custom-build space.
aikiwolfie Mar 7	Replacing the motherboard is like buying a new PC. If Dell makes it easy to upgrade in little steps like this they will sell fewer PCs to existing customers over the 3 year lifespan they plan for their products. Ironically however, easy upgrades would actually make Dell an even more popular PC brand. I'd say they could even jump to the number one spot.
zanlok Mar 7	I've replaced mobo's in my personal Dells before.. several times, actually. Way after the warranty or whatever. It worked well for me.
kcobley Mar 8	This is a repeat of my article XPS - Whole of life upgrade! Bye the way the new EVGA 780i board,measures up to an identical size the the current Dell 680 board and the CPU is located in the same position so it looks like it will fit but I haven't bought a board to test this yet. I just wish Dell would tell us if their new 780i board will fit our current XPS machines and offer an upgrade option to buy the new board and CPU. No fool is going to buy new machines costing many thousands of dollars just to get a new CPU so it would be a lot better to offer upgrades and so a least get some sales instead of none, people buy new machines when the machine dies usually in four year increments.
fargo Mar 9	speaking of upgrades you could start with the newxps 630, I don't know what dell was thinking putting a out dated 650i mb in a new gaming pc. I would have thought they would have put a x38 in it as they did with the xps 420. maybe its the old building on the cheap routine
aikiwolfie Mar 9	To be fair the XPS 630 is a budget gaming system. It's never going to be the daddy.
fargo Mar 9	when you can do sli in a gaming pc its no budget system and the hardware proves it and theres no excuse for the 650i board
aikiwolfie Mar 9	Ummm yes it is a budget system. In gaming terms anyway. SLI has been around for a long time now. We're now onto at least the third or fourth generation of SLI capable graphics cards and system boards.
fargo Mar 9	sorry but you can't convince its a budget pc like I said the hardware proves otherwise, now if your talking budget pc the xps 420 would fit the bill with its meager 375w psu. good for light gaming and multimedia.
aikiwolfie Mar 9	Shouldn't be the price that proves it?
aikiwolfie Mar 9	The most basic XPS 630 Dell are offering costs £849 including VAT+shipping. That's not bad for an entry level gaming system. The XPS 420 which comes in at £599 including VAT+shipping is a multimedia work station not a gaming rig and was originally billed as such. it was only when the 420 was released to the UK Dell started experimenting with advertising it as an entry level gaming rig. Dell has clearly seen the error of it's ways. The 630 is designed with expansion in mind. You start off with something affordable and build up to something awesome. The 630 unlike all of the other systems in the XPS desktop range is an ATX design. Which means you can even upgrade the system board with the minimum of fuss. Upgrade ability is a seriously important consideration with budget gaming systems. It might seem expensive. But lower spec systems will struggle to cope with the new games that are about to hit the market.
fargo Mar 9	I agree the xps 630 is an entry level pc and its about time dell went to atx design. I think dell had in mind a serious gaming pc for those that can't afford a xps 720 and like you say upgrade at their will. with a good graphics card I don't think theres a game on the market that the 630 can't handle with no problems.
zanlok Mar 9	"entry level" - no way. the 630 is a high-midrange totally about a maximal price:performance ratio I really like the direction of the 630. If I were to build my own system and had a non-bottomless budget, I'd definitely go for the new 9600 GT cards in SLi. Of course, I could build it a lot cheaper than Dell would make it, but since their warranty+service can save some headache, it might actually be worth it.
zanlok Mar 9	p.s. maybe, though, the mobo in the 630 is mismatched from its mission you might have a point, there
fargo Mar 10	zanlok I'm amazed someone else actually saw my point on the 630 mb and as dell only has 2 serious gaming desktops the 630 would be a starting point.
ajmukon Mar 10	you know.. for 3 1/2 lines of words, this is a pretty long discussion..
zanlok Mar 10	that's why people like phubert (et al) say the comments really to make the idea (adding a lot of value; sometimes more than the initial idea)
fargo Mar 10	at least its not as bad as the scientology idea you could make a book out of that
ajmukon Mar 10	? ah well. Personally, i am going to build my next gaming rig, but i think i will get something simple for the rest of the time... And my 400 XPS would do that very well with some MINOR upgrades.... CPU, PSU, and motherboard, and thats it.
fargo Mar 10	that xps 400 is dells imfamous btx design you might find it a pain in trying to upgrade those components
zanlok Mar 10	for a simpler and non-critical machine, make a trip to fry's :)
ajmukon Mar 10	thats why i want DELL to do it. its good as is, and i will make it last, but upgrades would be nice... otherwise, i am not going to upgrade

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